Le 3 févr. 2010 à 11:24, QuickConnect a écrit :
> You are right HTML 5 is not flash. However much of what you can do > with Flash you can do with HTML 5. > > For example it does the same kinds of animations and transitions that > you can do with Flash and it does them with fewer lines of code. So not true :) Have you heard about animations ? :) Not a single line of code needed > It does local database access and storage. So does Flash ! Take a look at Shared Objects... > When you need to contact a server for more data or other communication you > use the XMLHttpRequest object to do AJAX just as you can do AJAX in flash. You can do a simple sendAndLoad() and use plain text (POST or GET) variables string (&var1=2&var2=3) You can use XML since a XML parser is included and ready to use (to send and load) You can use remoting (the one i prefer, and the most used) using AMF (or BlazeDS from Adobe if running a Java server) You can use WebServices with an Axis 2.x or ASP.net server You can use Flash Communication Server > For video streaming you use a video tag. It's definitely not supported by all browsers, far from that !! And the video you put in the video tag can be encoded with whatever codec you want, that most of the time people don't have. No video but sound, no sound but video, video and sound but unsync, video in green, … that's definitely a place where flash is still today the best tool to do the job > With these abilities it seems to me that most of what someone uses > Flash for can be done in HTML 5. If not, what am I missing? graphical banners, video standard, same pixel per pixel website in all browser and platform (you can change select/radio/scrolls in Flash), Flex, AIR, Native Mobile App export, Native projection export, realtime 3D, augmented reality, webcam broadcasting/recording … not to talk about games (feel free to recreate http://machinarium.net/demo/ with HTML5 ;) ) > If this is so then it seems to me that this Flash vs. HTML 5 argument > comes down to nothing more than just a preference of the developer/ > engineer for one or the other. This, of course, is if we ignore that > IE will more than likely always be slow to adopt this new > functionality as it has with most others. No true for mobile ! Nokia+Blackberry+iPhone+Android make 90% of the market … and i don't see Microsoft going back on track for a couple of years ! (even HTC and Samsung have annonced to leave Wimo) Remi > On Feb 2, 10:04 pm, Remi Grumeau <[email protected]> wrote: >> What i do know (or i'm pretty sure about) is that mobile handhelds are going >> to be, in the next 5 years or a bit more, the way most of people are going >> to get connected with (phone, iPad, whatever has a touchscreen, …). >> So if Flash Player is not compatible with those, everything is possible >> (even the death of the format, to be replace by another - even by Adobe >> itself !)… but i'm agree with the fact HTML5 is not Flash: different >> formats, different goals for different needs ! >> >> Remi >> >> Le 2 févr. 2010 à 22:39, David Orchard a écrit : >> >> >> >>> People write for some market share that they feel comfortable with, >>> that's all. Whether it's IE, or Flash, or HTML5 (which is basically >>> being written by one person), it doesn't really matter that much. >>> What is at least decent about Apple is that Webkit and Safari are >>> leading the implementation of a variety of web specs, including HTML5 >>> and CSS. That is progressing our capabilities to deliver content, >>> unlike MSFT who pretty much stopped development on IE for a long time. >> >>> Cheers, >>> Dave >> >>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Mr Junk <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> People wrote specifically for IE, that broke the web for everyone else. >>>> People write specifically for Flash, that breaks the web for everyone else. >>>> Standards are good. >>>> Companies who shun them should go away. >>>> MS = Adobe = Fail >>>> On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:49 AM, ade wrote: >> >>>> here's the classic conversation we have with clients who want their website >>>> to be linked on iphone friendly sites and from our app: >> >>>> "sorry but your lovely looking website doesnt work on an iphone etc" >> >>>> today some have said "this ipad looks great" >> >>>> "your website wont work on that either" >> >>>> however it does mean extra work(income) in making an iphone/ipad friendly >>>> website for them ;) >> >>>> -- >>>> ade >>>> ........................................................................... >>>> ................ >>>> www.ibizaA-Z.com >>>> www.iphoneibiza.com >>>> www.podcast-ibiza.com >>>> www.ishopibiza.com >>>> www.ibiza-blog.com >>>> www.ibizawinter.com >>>> www.ibizaa-z.com/webcam >>>> http://twitter.com/blogibiza >> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "iPhoneWebDev" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. >> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "iPhoneWebDev" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "iPhoneWebDev" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iPhoneWebDev" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iPhoneWebDev" group. 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