eh eh
Seems we have another (old) flash dev here :)
lets say that comparing Flash vs HTML5 is like a simple knife vs a swiss knife 
/ Nokia 3310 vs iPhone / ...

Let's kill this troll please… and keep creating cool theme/extension/bug 
reports for iUI :)

Le 3 févr. 2010 à 12:50, Giraldo Rosales a écrit :

> Here is a great analogy...
> - Flash is like a PDF document, author has full control at the output, prints 
> on all printers the same way, can embed images (yes, now video but just 
> talking about print), fonts, etc. in one file.

You can even embed interactive flash movies :)

> - HTML5 is like a Rich Text doc. Yes you can add in images but it is missing 
> so much more.
> 
> HTML5 does not have:
> - Fullscreen

Depends on the browser... Opera can do it. All mobile browser are fullscreen 
nope ?

> - 3D (such as Away3D or papervision libraries)
> - Cross-Domain compatibility - Cannot access scripts across domains (Flash 
> has crossdomain.xml files with these permissions)
> - Cross-Platform/Browser compatibility - looking the same in all browsers

Depends on the HTML/CSS dev actually...

> - Asynchronous client-server communication
> - Manipulate images client-side
> - Support for different video formats (until browsers start agreeing on 
> formats)
> - Alpha channel video
> - Dynamic streaming of video based on network connection
> - Webcam and mic api
> - Typography control

@font-face ?

> - Filters and effects
> - Dynamically generate audio real-time
> - Preview an image before you upload it from your local drive
> 
> 
> Basically if you have something like a blog site with a couple video/audio 
> clips, then just use HTML5. If you plan on creating something more advanced 
> such as an interactive game or application, Flash is the choice. Will it ever 
> go away, no. Has anything come close? Silverlight, but never had a chance. Is 
> Flash just for banner ads and animation? Used to be but has grown far beyond.
> 
> And to with libraries like Dojo and Ext.js, you can create a lightweight app 
> in HTML5 and JS but will not have the power of a Flash app.
> 
> Now let me know if you can replicate this in HTML5/JS:
> http://www.bandit3.com
> 
> 
> -G
> 
> On Feb 3, 2010, at 10:24 AM, QuickConnect wrote:
> 
>> You are right HTML 5 is not flash.  However much of what you can do
>> with Flash you can do with HTML 5.
>> 
>> For example it does the same kinds of animations and transitions that
>> you can do with Flash and it does them with fewer lines of code.  It
>> does local database access and storage.  When you need to contact a
>> server for more data or other communication you use the XMLHttpRequest
>> object to do AJAX just as you can do AJAX in flash.
>> 
>> For video streaming you use a video tag.
>> 
>> With these abilities it seems to me that most of what someone uses
>> Flash for can be done in HTML 5.  If not, what am I missing?
>> 
>> If this is so then it seems to me that this Flash vs. HTML 5 argument
>> comes down to nothing more than just a preference of the developer/
>> engineer for one or the other.  This, of course, is if we ignore that
>> IE will more than likely always be slow to adopt this new
>> functionality as it has with most others.
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 10:04 pm, Remi Grumeau <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> What i do know (or i'm pretty sure about) is that mobile handhelds are 
>>> going to be, in the next 5 years or a bit more, the way most of people are 
>>> going to get connected with (phone, iPad, whatever has a touchscreen, …).
>>> So if Flash Player is not compatible with those, everything is possible 
>>> (even the death of the format, to be replace by another - even by Adobe 
>>> itself !)… but i'm agree with the fact HTML5 is not Flash: different 
>>> formats, different goals for different needs !
>>> 
>>> Remi
>>> 
>>> Le 2 févr. 2010 à 22:39, David Orchard a écrit :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> People write for some market share that they feel comfortable with,
>>>> that's all.  Whether it's IE, or Flash, or HTML5 (which is basically
>>>> being written by one person), it doesn't really matter that much.
>>>> What is at least decent about Apple is that Webkit and Safari are
>>>> leading the implementation of a variety of web specs, including HTML5
>>>> and CSS.  That is progressing our capabilities to deliver content,
>>>> unlike MSFT who pretty much stopped development on IE for a long time.
>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Mr Junk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> People wrote specifically for IE, that broke the web for everyone else.
>>>>> People write specifically for Flash, that breaks the web for everyone 
>>>>> else.
>>>>> Standards are good.
>>>>> Companies who shun them should go away.
>>>>> MS = Adobe = Fail
>>>>> On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:49 AM, ade wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> here's the classic conversation we have with clients who want their 
>>>>> website
>>>>> to be linked on iphone friendly sites and from our app:
>>> 
>>>>> "sorry but your lovely looking website doesnt work on an iphone etc"
>>> 
>>>>> today some have said "this ipad looks great"
>>> 
>>>>> "your website wont work on that either"
>>> 
>>>>> however it does mean extra work(income) in making an iphone/ipad friendly
>>>>> website for them ;)
>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> ade
>>>>> ...........................................................................
>>>>>  ................
>>>>> www.ibizaA-Z.com
>>>>> www.iphoneibiza.com
>>>>> www.podcast-ibiza.com
>>>>> www.ishopibiza.com
>>>>> www.ibiza-blog.com
>>>>> www.ibizawinter.com
>>>>> www.ibizaa-z.com/webcam
>>>>> http://twitter.com/blogibiza
>>> 
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