Lol. A bit quicker than me for that response. -G
On Feb 3, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Remi Grumeau wrote: > > > Le 3 févr. 2010 à 11:24, QuickConnect a écrit : > >> You are right HTML 5 is not flash. However much of what you can do >> with Flash you can do with HTML 5. >> >> For example it does the same kinds of animations and transitions that >> you can do with Flash and it does them with fewer lines of code. > > So not true :) Have you heard about animations ? :) Not a single line of code > needed > >> It does local database access and storage. > > So does Flash ! Take a look at Shared Objects... > >> When you need to contact a server for more data or other communication you >> use the XMLHttpRequest object to do AJAX just as you can do AJAX in flash. > > You can do a simple sendAndLoad() and use plain text (POST or GET) variables > string (&var1=2&var2=3) > You can use XML since a XML parser is included and ready to use (to send and > load) > You can use remoting (the one i prefer, and the most used) using AMF (or > BlazeDS from Adobe if running a Java server) > You can use WebServices with an Axis 2.x or ASP.net server > You can use Flash Communication Server > >> For video streaming you use a video tag. > > It's definitely not supported by all browsers, far from that !! And the video > you put in the video tag can be encoded with whatever codec you want, that > most of the time people don't have. No video but sound, no sound but video, > video and sound but unsync, video in green, … that's definitely a place where > flash is still today the best tool to do the job > >> With these abilities it seems to me that most of what someone uses >> Flash for can be done in HTML 5. If not, what am I missing? > > graphical banners, video standard, same pixel per pixel website in all > browser and platform (you can change select/radio/scrolls in Flash), Flex, > AIR, Native Mobile App export, Native projection export, realtime 3D, > augmented reality, webcam broadcasting/recording … not to talk about games > (feel free to recreate http://machinarium.net/demo/ with HTML5 ;) ) > >> If this is so then it seems to me that this Flash vs. HTML 5 argument >> comes down to nothing more than just a preference of the developer/ >> engineer for one or the other. This, of course, is if we ignore that >> IE will more than likely always be slow to adopt this new >> functionality as it has with most others. > > No true for mobile ! > Nokia+Blackberry+iPhone+Android make 90% of the market … and i don't see > Microsoft going back on track for a couple of years ! (even HTC and Samsung > have annonced to leave Wimo) > > Remi > >> On Feb 2, 10:04 pm, Remi Grumeau <[email protected]> wrote: >>> What i do know (or i'm pretty sure about) is that mobile handhelds are >>> going to be, in the next 5 years or a bit more, the way most of people are >>> going to get connected with (phone, iPad, whatever has a touchscreen, …). >>> So if Flash Player is not compatible with those, everything is possible >>> (even the death of the format, to be replace by another - even by Adobe >>> itself !)… but i'm agree with the fact HTML5 is not Flash: different >>> formats, different goals for different needs ! >>> >>> Remi >>> >>> Le 2 févr. 2010 à 22:39, David Orchard a écrit : >>> >>> >>> >>>> People write for some market share that they feel comfortable with, >>>> that's all. Whether it's IE, or Flash, or HTML5 (which is basically >>>> being written by one person), it doesn't really matter that much. >>>> What is at least decent about Apple is that Webkit and Safari are >>>> leading the implementation of a variety of web specs, including HTML5 >>>> and CSS. That is progressing our capabilities to deliver content, >>>> unlike MSFT who pretty much stopped development on IE for a long time. >>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Dave >>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Mr Junk <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> People wrote specifically for IE, that broke the web for everyone else. >>>>> People write specifically for Flash, that breaks the web for everyone >>>>> else. >>>>> Standards are good. >>>>> Companies who shun them should go away. >>>>> MS = Adobe = Fail >>>>> On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:49 AM, ade wrote: >>> >>>>> here's the classic conversation we have with clients who want their >>>>> website >>>>> to be linked on iphone friendly sites and from our app: >>> >>>>> "sorry but your lovely looking website doesnt work on an iphone etc" >>> >>>>> today some have said "this ipad looks great" >>> >>>>> "your website wont work on that either" >>> >>>>> however it does mean extra work(income) in making an iphone/ipad friendly >>>>> website for them ;) >>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ade >>>>> ........................................................................... >>>>> ................ >>>>> www.ibizaA-Z.com >>>>> www.iphoneibiza.com >>>>> www.podcast-ibiza.com >>>>> www.ishopibiza.com >>>>> www.ibiza-blog.com >>>>> www.ibizawinter.com >>>>> www.ibizaa-z.com/webcam >>>>> http://twitter.com/blogibiza >>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "iPhoneWebDev" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. >>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "iPhoneWebDev" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. >>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "iPhoneWebDev" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group >>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "iPhoneWebDev" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iPhoneWebDev" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iPhoneWebDev" group. 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