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----- Original Message -----
From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Aly Ramzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
>
> We for one have been paying ISPAK annual fees for the last three years.
>
> Don't you think it is unfair for me a small ISP, for whom Rs. 5000 is a
> much bigger share of total revenues, than other big ISP's, that other
> no-payers enjoy the same privileges as me ???
>
> I do not understand what this fuss is all about paying Rs. 5000, which for
> all of us is by Grace of God a very small amount ??
>
> Why can't all people pay Rs. 5000, and attend the meeting ?? Why, when I
> have paid, others are un-willing to pay ??
>
> If I have made a mistake in paying, pls help your brother, by telling me
> what I have done wrong and why, so in the future I can save Rs. 5000.
>
> Regards,
>
> Nasir.
>
>
> On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, nadeem wrote:
>
> > Dear Ramzan Bhai,
> >
> > I fully agree with your point of view with reference to funds. However,
this
> > issue has never been made a point of concern for any of the meeting.
> >
> > I suggest that let this meeting be held without pressure however, put
> > payment condition for right to cast the vote.
> > The impression Mr. Bhutta is creating is that he is being selective and
does
> > not want certain members to attend. I request Mr. Bhutta not to create
such
> > impression.
> >
> > Circulate the list of members. The voting as well as holding office
bearer
> > position should be with the condition that the member organization is an
> > Operating ISP.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Aly Ramzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > "H.K.Pasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Azfar
> > Manzoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
> >
> >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > Funds are required to run any association, PASHA charged our Software
> > house
> > > Rs. 15,000 before they would even put us on their discussion group.
Same
> > is
> > > true for Chamber, Federation, PREGMA, APTMA etc. etc. I fail to
understand
> > > how an association with office, employees, travel expenses etc.can
work
> > > without funds. The present and newly elected body will need the funds
to
> > > operate ISPAK successfully, and the audited accounts should be open
for
> > > inspection to all members.
> > >
> > > One may argue that these are not elected members per say but we feel
that
> > > our problems were solved by the same team which exists today. Being an
ISP
> > > in operation since 1998 I feel that Bhutta Saheb, Ansar Saheb, Imran
> > Akhtar
> > > Saheb, Salman Ansari Saheb, Arshad Jalil Saheb and others have worked
very
> > > very hard "TOGETHER" to do what ever was possible to get ISP issues
> > > resolved. So many of our problems with PTCL which were impossible to
solve
> > > in the 90's are going through seamlessly. People on both sides of the
> > fence
> > > have worked hard to get ISPAK to where it is today.
> > >
> > > We are looking forward to the elections.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Aly Ramzan
> > > CubeXS
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Azfar Manzoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > "H.K.Pasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 5:54 PM
> > > Subject: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dear Bhutta Sahib,
> > > >
> > > > I support Nadeem. Every ISP should be allowed to be on the email
list of
> > > ISPAK whether a paid member or not.
> > > >
> > > > Infact, I would go one step further and recommend the following for
> > > maximum participation:
> > > >
> > > > 1. For the General Body Meeting of ISPAK on July 10, 2001 in Karachi
Mr.
> > > Pasha, DS ISPAK should personally contact the CEO/MD of every
operational
> > > ISP in the country whether it is a member of ISPAK or not. All should
be
> > > invited to this meeting or asked to send representatives.The email
list of
> > > ISPAK does not include all operational ISP's.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Those who cannot come to Karachi for one reason or another should
be
> > > informed of what issues were discussed in the General Body meeting by
> > > sending them written minutes of the meeting and also all should be
given
> > an
> > > opportunity to present their views by immediately holding followup
ISPAK
> > > meetings in Lahore and Islamabad chaired by you as President ISPAK
> > > personally so that no one can complain later.
> > > >
> > > > For Lahore WOL will be more than willing to play host and I am sure
we
> > > will have volunteers for Islamabad also.
> > > >
> > > > The above practice is followed very successfully by PASHA and this
> > insures
> > > that every member has the opportunity to participate in the affairs of
> > ISPAK
> > > and such openness leads to a more vibrant, effective and united
> > > organization.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Azfar
> > > >
> > > > At 09:44 AM7/2/01+0500, nadeem wrote:
> > > > >Bhutta Sb.,
> > > > >
> > > > >Do not take this position.
> > > > >
> > > > >Instead, be positive and try to have maximum presence to make ISPAK
> > truly
> > > > >representative. Remember ISPAK is body of ISPs. Do not give
impression
> > > that
> > > > >you want some specific person out.
> > > > >
> > > > >Registered member is one who has got registration. Make the request
to
> > > > >members to pay the dues. Do not try to keep the people out on
> > > > >technicalities. Be humble and make friends. The positions are open
for
> > > any
> > > > >body who is considered eligible by the majority.
> > > > >
> > > > >Regards
> > > > >
> > > > >Ahmad Nadeem Syed
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >To: "H.K.Pasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 8:51 PM
> > > > >Subject: ISPAK: Re: To Mr. Bhutta; Email List Additions For
Worldcall
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> Dear Mr.Pasha,
> > > > >> Deputy Secretary ISPAK
> > > > >> AoA
> > > > >> Please check if worldcall.net is paid member then include the
> > proposed
> > > > >name
> > > > >> in the mailing list otherwise regret and inform that mailing list
is
> > > being
> > > > >> limited with in paid members..
> > > > >> Best regards.
> > > > >> Sanaullah Bhutta
> > > > >> President ISPAK>
> > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> From: "Nahil Mahmood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 3:37 PM
> > > > >> Subject: To Mr. Bhutta; Email List Additions For Worldcall
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Dear Mr. Bhutta,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I am contacting you from Worldcall Lahore. I would like to
request
> > > you
> > > > >> > to kindly add two email addresses to your mailing list for
ISPAK as
> > > > >> > follows:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > -Mr. Fazeel Asif, COO Worldcall Multimedia
> > > > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > -Nahil Mahmood, Senior Manager Technical, Worldcall Multimedia
Ltd.
> > > > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Looking forward to your early asistance.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Sincerely,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Nahil Mahmood
> > > > >> > Mobile: 0300-8484399
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > --
> > > > >> > *************************
> > > > >> > Nahil Mahmood
> > > > >> > Senior Manager Technical
> > > > >> > Worldcall Multimedia Ltd.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > 50 Bridge Colony
> > > > >> > Abid Majeed Road
> > > > >> > Lahore Cannt., Pakistan
> > > > >> > Tel: +92-42-6686227
> > > > >> > Fax: +92-42-6669095
> > > > >> > *************************
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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