Dear All,

Funds are required to run any association, PASHA charged our Software house
Rs. 15,000 before they would even put us on their discussion group. Same is
true for Chamber, Federation, PREGMA, APTMA etc. etc. I fail to understand
how an association with office, employees, travel expenses etc.can work
without funds. The present and newly elected body will need the funds to
operate ISPAK successfully, and the audited accounts should be open for
inspection to all members.

One may argue that these are not elected members per say but we feel that
our problems were solved by the same team which exists today. Being an ISP
in operation since 1998 I feel that Bhutta Saheb, Ansar Saheb, Imran Akhtar
Saheb, Salman Ansari Saheb, Arshad Jalil Saheb and others have worked very
very hard "TOGETHER" to do what ever was possible to get ISP issues
resolved. So many of our problems with PTCL which were impossible to solve
in the 90's are going through seamlessly. People on both sides of the fence
have worked hard to get ISPAK to where it is today.

We are looking forward to the elections.

Sincerely,

Aly Ramzan
CubeXS

----- Original Message -----
From: "Azfar Manzoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"H.K.Pasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 5:54 PM
Subject: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING


> Dear Bhutta Sahib,
>
> I support Nadeem. Every ISP should be allowed to be on the email list of
ISPAK whether a paid member or not.
>
> Infact, I  would go one step further and recommend the following for
maximum participation:
>
> 1. For the General Body Meeting of ISPAK on July 10, 2001 in Karachi Mr.
Pasha, DS ISPAK should personally contact the CEO/MD of every operational
ISP in the country whether it is a member of ISPAK or not. All should be
invited to this meeting or asked to send representatives.The email list of
ISPAK does not include all operational ISP's.
>
> 2. Those who cannot come to Karachi for one reason or another should be
informed of what issues were discussed in the General Body meeting by
sending them written minutes of the meeting and also all should be given an
opportunity to present their views by immediately holding followup ISPAK
meetings in Lahore and Islamabad chaired by you as President ISPAK
personally so that no one can complain later.
>
> For Lahore WOL will be more than willing to play host and I am sure we
will have volunteers for Islamabad also.
>
> The above practice is followed very successfully by PASHA and this insures
that every member has the opportunity to participate in the affairs of ISPAK
and such openness leads to a more vibrant, effective and united
organization.
>
> Regards
>
> Azfar
>
> At 09:44 AM7/2/01+0500, nadeem wrote:
> >Bhutta Sb.,
> >
> >Do not take this position.
> >
> >Instead, be positive and try to have maximum presence to make ISPAK truly
> >representative. Remember ISPAK is body of ISPs. Do not give impression
that
> >you want some specific person out.
> >
> >Registered member is one who has got registration. Make the request to
> >members to pay the dues. Do not try to keep the people out on
> >technicalities. Be humble and make friends. The positions are open for
any
> >body who is considered eligible by the majority.
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Ahmad Nadeem Syed
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "H.K.Pasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 8:51 PM
> >Subject: ISPAK: Re: To Mr. Bhutta; Email List Additions For Worldcall
> >
> >
> >> Dear Mr.Pasha,
> >> Deputy Secretary ISPAK
> >> AoA
> >> Please check if worldcall.net is paid member then include the proposed
> >name
> >> in the mailing list otherwise regret and inform that mailing list is
being
> >> limited with in paid members..
> >> Best regards.
> >> Sanaullah Bhutta
> >> President ISPAK>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Nahil Mahmood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 3:37 PM
> >> Subject: To Mr. Bhutta; Email List Additions For Worldcall
> >>
> >>
> >> > Dear Mr. Bhutta,
> >> >
> >> > I am contacting you from Worldcall Lahore. I would like to request
you
> >> > to kindly add two email addresses to your mailing list for ISPAK as
> >> > follows:
> >> >
> >> > -Mr. Fazeel Asif, COO Worldcall Multimedia
> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> >> > -Nahil Mahmood, Senior Manager Technical, Worldcall Multimedia Ltd.
> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> >> > Looking forward to your early asistance.
> >> >
> >> > Sincerely,
> >> >
> >> > Nahil Mahmood
> >> > Mobile: 0300-8484399
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > *************************
> >> > Nahil Mahmood
> >> > Senior Manager Technical
> >> > Worldcall Multimedia Ltd.
> >> >
> >> > 50 Bridge Colony
> >> > Abid Majeed Road
> >> > Lahore Cannt., Pakistan
> >> > Tel: +92-42-6686227
> >> > Fax: +92-42-6669095
> >> > *************************
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
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> >ISPs and ESPs of Pakistan and select media representatives.
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>
>
>
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