We for one have been paying ISPAK annual fees for the last three years.
Don't you think it is unfair for me a small ISP, for whom Rs. 5000 is a
much bigger share of total revenues, than other big ISP's, that other
no-payers enjoy the same privileges as me ???
I do not understand what this fuss is all about paying Rs. 5000, which for
all of us is by Grace of God a very small amount ??
Why can't all people pay Rs. 5000, and attend the meeting ?? Why, when I
have paid, others are un-willing to pay ??
If I have made a mistake in paying, pls help your brother, by telling me
what I have done wrong and why, so in the future I can save Rs. 5000.
Regards,
Nasir.
On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, nadeem wrote:
> Dear Ramzan Bhai,
>
> I fully agree with your point of view with reference to funds. However, this
> issue has never been made a point of concern for any of the meeting.
>
> I suggest that let this meeting be held without pressure however, put
> payment condition for right to cast the vote.
> The impression Mr. Bhutta is creating is that he is being selective and does
> not want certain members to attend. I request Mr. Bhutta not to create such
> impression.
>
> Circulate the list of members. The voting as well as holding office bearer
> position should be with the condition that the member organization is an
> Operating ISP.
>
> Regards
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aly Ramzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> "H.K.Pasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Azfar
> Manzoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:58 PM
> Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
>
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Funds are required to run any association, PASHA charged our Software
> house
> > Rs. 15,000 before they would even put us on their discussion group. Same
> is
> > true for Chamber, Federation, PREGMA, APTMA etc. etc. I fail to understand
> > how an association with office, employees, travel expenses etc.can work
> > without funds. The present and newly elected body will need the funds to
> > operate ISPAK successfully, and the audited accounts should be open for
> > inspection to all members.
> >
> > One may argue that these are not elected members per say but we feel that
> > our problems were solved by the same team which exists today. Being an ISP
> > in operation since 1998 I feel that Bhutta Saheb, Ansar Saheb, Imran
> Akhtar
> > Saheb, Salman Ansari Saheb, Arshad Jalil Saheb and others have worked very
> > very hard "TOGETHER" to do what ever was possible to get ISP issues
> > resolved. So many of our problems with PTCL which were impossible to solve
> > in the 90's are going through seamlessly. People on both sides of the
> fence
> > have worked hard to get ISPAK to where it is today.
> >
> > We are looking forward to the elections.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Aly Ramzan
> > CubeXS
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Azfar Manzoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > "H.K.Pasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 5:54 PM
> > Subject: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
> >
> >
> > > Dear Bhutta Sahib,
> > >
> > > I support Nadeem. Every ISP should be allowed to be on the email list of
> > ISPAK whether a paid member or not.
> > >
> > > Infact, I would go one step further and recommend the following for
> > maximum participation:
> > >
> > > 1. For the General Body Meeting of ISPAK on July 10, 2001 in Karachi Mr.
> > Pasha, DS ISPAK should personally contact the CEO/MD of every operational
> > ISP in the country whether it is a member of ISPAK or not. All should be
> > invited to this meeting or asked to send representatives.The email list of
> > ISPAK does not include all operational ISP's.
> > >
> > > 2. Those who cannot come to Karachi for one reason or another should be
> > informed of what issues were discussed in the General Body meeting by
> > sending them written minutes of the meeting and also all should be given
> an
> > opportunity to present their views by immediately holding followup ISPAK
> > meetings in Lahore and Islamabad chaired by you as President ISPAK
> > personally so that no one can complain later.
> > >
> > > For Lahore WOL will be more than willing to play host and I am sure we
> > will have volunteers for Islamabad also.
> > >
> > > The above practice is followed very successfully by PASHA and this
> insures
> > that every member has the opportunity to participate in the affairs of
> ISPAK
> > and such openness leads to a more vibrant, effective and united
> > organization.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Azfar
> > >
> > > At 09:44 AM7/2/01+0500, nadeem wrote:
> > > >Bhutta Sb.,
> > > >
> > > >Do not take this position.
> > > >
> > > >Instead, be positive and try to have maximum presence to make ISPAK
> truly
> > > >representative. Remember ISPAK is body of ISPs. Do not give impression
> > that
> > > >you want some specific person out.
> > > >
> > > >Registered member is one who has got registration. Make the request to
> > > >members to pay the dues. Do not try to keep the people out on
> > > >technicalities. Be humble and make friends. The positions are open for
> > any
> > > >body who is considered eligible by the majority.
> > > >
> > > >Regards
> > > >
> > > >Ahmad Nadeem Syed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "H.K.Pasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 8:51 PM
> > > >Subject: ISPAK: Re: To Mr. Bhutta; Email List Additions For Worldcall
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Dear Mr.Pasha,
> > > >> Deputy Secretary ISPAK
> > > >> AoA
> > > >> Please check if worldcall.net is paid member then include the
> proposed
> > > >name
> > > >> in the mailing list otherwise regret and inform that mailing list is
> > being
> > > >> limited with in paid members..
> > > >> Best regards.
> > > >> Sanaullah Bhutta
> > > >> President ISPAK>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Nahil Mahmood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 3:37 PM
> > > >> Subject: To Mr. Bhutta; Email List Additions For Worldcall
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > Dear Mr. Bhutta,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I am contacting you from Worldcall Lahore. I would like to request
> > you
> > > >> > to kindly add two email addresses to your mailing list for ISPAK as
> > > >> > follows:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > -Mr. Fazeel Asif, COO Worldcall Multimedia
> > > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> >
> > > >> > -Nahil Mahmood, Senior Manager Technical, Worldcall Multimedia Ltd.
> > > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Looking forward to your early asistance.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Sincerely,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Nahil Mahmood
> > > >> > Mobile: 0300-8484399
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > *************************
> > > >> > Nahil Mahmood
> > > >> > Senior Manager Technical
> > > >> > Worldcall Multimedia Ltd.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 50 Bridge Colony
> > > >> > Abid Majeed Road
> > > >> > Lahore Cannt., Pakistan
> > > >> > Tel: +92-42-6686227
> > > >> > Fax: +92-42-6669095
> > > >> > *************************
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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>
>
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