I agree that it makes much more sense for an arbitrary organization to
maintain a clone of all the tizen git trees, hosted on their own
servers, and built using their own build system.

Each and every change would add a maintenance cost so attempting to keep
a zero delta should be a goal, but sometimes productization requires hot
fixes that might take some time to debate and work through an open
source submission process like Tizen.  The productization activity might
also have a need to mostly freeze the entire codebase and take on the
cost of backporting critical fixes or even a few features where the open
project has decided to move on to new versions of packages.

    --rusty

On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 08:35 -0700, Hanchett, Paul wrote:
> Hi Gents,
> 
> 
> I'm *very* new to Tizen/IVI, so I'm still finding my way around,
> but...
> 
> 
>         ... a formalized and supported (=logistical resources?) for
>         customers to get to create their own branches ...
> 
> 
> I thought the idea of git was that an organization should make a local
> master repository and do their own work against that repository,
> updating to the project master as they have proven additions and
> fixes?
> 
> 
> Is there a Best Practices document that describes how to use the Tizen
> repository together and what the work flow should look like?
> 
> 
> TIA,
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> Paul Hanchett
> 
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> 
> On 16 August 2013 19:04, Teres Alexis, Alan Previn
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>         I am wondering if there could be a formalized and supported
>         (=logistical resources?) for customers to get to create their
>         own branches - so they can make up their own schedules and
>         plans and decide which "stable release" version of a TizenIVI
>         release to snapshot as their "alpha and move towards
>         production".
>         
>         ...alan
>         
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: [email protected]
>         [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Abramski,
>         Adam M
>         Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 3:06 AM
>         To: Graydon, Tracy; Zheng, Yanshuang; VanCutsem, Geoffroy;
>         Ylinen, Mikko
>         Cc: [email protected]
>         
>         Subject: RE: Tizen IVI repositories enabled by default in the
>         image
>         
>         Comments in line
>         
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: [email protected]
>         [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Graydon,
>         Tracy
>         Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 11:55 AM
>         To: Zheng, Yanshuang; VanCutsem, Geoffroy; Ylinen, Mikko
>         Cc: [email protected]
>         Subject: Re: Tizen IVI repositories enabled by default in the
>         image
>         
>         This is a perfect time to re-ask the question that Geoffroy
>         asked the other day...
>         
>         Should we change the default repo to be daily instead of
>         snapshots? If QA is testing daily images against snapshot
>         repos because that is the default, that's a good argument for
>         changing the default to daily.
>         
>         The question then becomes: how do our customers use the daily
>         images? I am willing to bet they really don't want the
>         bleeding (possibly broken) edge.
>         In fact, the official stance is that, in general, we don't
>         really want anyone other than developers using snapshots. The
>         are there for engineering and development use and convenience.
>         Customers and others use them at their own risk.
>         
>         Adam - I would agree with both of these comments.
>         
>         Based on that assumptionÅ assuming it is validÅ I think we
>         should default to daily instead.
>         
>         Anyone think differently? Thoughts?
>         
>         
>         
>         On 8/16/13 2:57 AM, "Zheng, Yanshuang"
>         <[email protected]> wrote:
>         
>         >> > [Yanshuang] 'zypper up' is tested but at a weekly basis
>         instead of
>         >> > daily. Often QA install the latest daily build in last
>         week(e.g. US
>         >> > Thursday) and then test 'zypper up' on this Thursday or
>         Friday(PRC).
>         >> > That is to ensure system upgrade to latest snapshot could
>         be
>         >> > conducted smoothly and the upgrade won't break system
>         startup.
>         >
>         >> Thanks for confirming this Yanshuang. Wouldn't it make more
>         sense to
>         >>test  updates to the latest daily build instead of snapshot?
>         Correct
>         >>me if I'm wrong  but snapshot could be pretty broken so it
>         could make
>         >>it hard to verify whether  it's the build itself which is
>         broken or
>         >>the upgrade process?
>         >>
>         >
>         >[Yanshuang] "upgrade to latest snapshot" is because,
>         currently the
>         >default enabled repo for all daily releases is the snapshot
>         repo.
>         >QA test this without any repo re-configuration, assuming
>         changing repo
>         >configuration is not a common case for general users.
>         >We are OK to test against daily repo if there is kinds of
>         feedback from
>         >customers.
>         >And if the default enabled repo is switched to the daily one,
>         our
>         >'zypper up' would test the upgrade against daily repo.
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