From: Ylinen, Mikko [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:23 PM
To: Wang, Quanxian
Cc: Jussi Laako; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Simultaneous multi-user multi-seat architecture



On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 6:02 AM, Wang, Quanxian 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
[Wang, Quanxian] It is very good if you want multiple user to protect privacy. 
That is fine. But do you need to bind multiple seat, multiple display with 
multiple user. They should not have direct links. I don't think multiple seat 
designer like to bind it to multiple users scope. At least for weston/wayland, 
they just want to bind it to their own display instead of multiple-user.
This is an idea not related with privacy. It is the design idea for your 
multiple seats, multiple displays. Please don't always bind shared hardware 
resource into your multiple user scope.
One clear example is multiple apps could rendering in one GPU. They don't need 
multiple users or single user idea in their rendering process.


I've not yet seen any justification WHY, in your opinion, the idea is not good.
[Wang, Quanxian] my opinion is ‘multiple users should be separated from 
multiple displays, and multiple seats instead of binding them together.’ It 
will be flexible to use them in the future whatever for single user or multiple 
user. I have read the doc of Multiseat_Setup. Your setup guide is right to say 
one thing, any user could use any displays which owned by machine even if you 
limit it one user/one display, but this can be changed.  That is what we want.
Therefore multiple users mechanism is not related with multiple displays and 
multiple seats. Any user could use any displays which owned by machine. It 
should be out of scope of multi users. It is also my point expressed. If you 
limit it to multiple user, I think you finally will be limited by multiple user 
mechanism.

Here I just list my idea on your design, it is a discussion. My original idea 
is to provide more thinking if our current design idea are fine for all or 
future. I am sorry to say it later because I am investigating if multiple user 
could use multiple displays at the same time separately with one user account, 
here I don’t need to think about privacy. I want tizen ivi will be flexible for 
multiple seats , multiple displays instead of under the scope of multiple user. 
 Actually your multiple-seats configure setup have the appearance to do that. 
wayland-parent, wayland-child, one user/one display…

Still, anyone could use any displays and seats owned by machine under the 
permission. Whatever for single users or multiple users…

As Dominig wrote, we have requirements to fulfill. "It's not a good idea" is 
not enough to
say if a requirement is not implemented.

Please also have a look https://wiki.tizen.org/wiki/IVI/Multiseat_Setup that 
gives details
on the work we have ongoing.
[Wang, Quanxian]Good doc.

-- Mikko
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