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With all this quoting, it isn't as easy as I would want to, but
well... Here's my response :-D


I agree with you, Single sided is the best for a first version. When
prints will be made at a professional service, they could be double
layered.

About the price, I can get a Freeduino for just €16 (http://
www.samenkopen.net/action_product/795718/462690 - dutch website)
The next version is a lot more expensive, but also SMD. I won't go for
that just yet :)

The problem with JAL is for starters.. They have to know just too much
settings and stuff. An extra library to set those basic settings would
be usefull. Especially since the basic package of hardware is the
same.

The arduino language is really easy because some of the more
'difficult' settings are already set for you. Te knife cut's both
sides -> easy for starters, limiting for the more advanced people.
But I think this can be fixed by making a custom library for this
board.

On 13 jul, 21:09, Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]> wrote:
> If you're ok, I'm migrating this topic on jallist.
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> Seb
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> 2009/7/13 phalox <[email protected]>
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> > Pin count doesn't really matter in my oppinion. It's more the number
> > of specific pins (like there are 3-6 PWM pins on an atmega168), there
> > are only 2 on a 16F877.
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> > I think this is the main problem. Next to that the routing will be
> > difficult. which means there will be some dual layer work :)
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> > It was just an idea I was playing with.
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> > I think too that such a board has to be kept really cheap to be
> > successful. But also an easy programming language ( could be a problem
> > too with JAL)
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> > On 13 jul, 18:40, Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > @development board: What about this one then:
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> > > >http://jallib.blogspot.com/2009/06/pic-18f4k50-usb-interface-board-pa.
> > ..
> > > > .
> > > > You've responded to that post already with some feedback I see :-)
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> > > > What I think that would be useful is to make this development board
> > > > pincompatible with the arduino, so you can use their shields too. It
> > > > would help such board a whole lot further!
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> > > Make the board compatible with already existing Arduino shield, that's an
> > > idea !
> > > But I wonder how possible it is: pin count wouldn't be the same, and
> > > wouldn't have the same functionality. This would make the board wiring
> > > complex maybe. More, not all arduino boards have the same number of pins.
> > > Maybe having a "converter" shield, from jaluino to *duino would do the
> > trick
> > > :)
>
> > > Cheers,
> > > Seb
> > > --
> > > Sébastien Lelonghttp://www.sirloon.nethttp://sirbot.org
>
> --
> Sébastien Lelonghttp://www.sirloon.nethttp://sirbot.org
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