mattschinkel wrote: > Wayne, > >> I think you mean that there is no JALv2/jallib website. Well there is >> this mailing list and the Docs on the the google jallib page. You seen >> to think a forum would be an improvement over what is currently there. >> Why? > > What you have here is good, for you guys. I do not want to change what > you are doing since it is obvious that you do not want to change > anything. After the site is built, you can take a look at it and > decide weather you want to use it or not. > > The reason I mirrored jallib to the forum is that if I did this, you > would be able to use the same mailing list you are currently using > without me changing your life or sending you extra email. However, a > few emails where duplicated and sent to you. It was a mistake. I wish > you would give me a chance to fix it instead of trashing my idea right > away. > >> What is better about the forum? > For you Wayne, nothing. I want your current mailing system to say the > same and not affect you at all. I want you to continue to use the > jallib mailing list and google groups. > > However, what is better for others is another story. > 1. jalv2/jallib website and forum will contain all info in one place. > Your jallib group can remain here the website can reflect the same > info you have here, jallist, and other docs, data, how-to's, etc. It > can contain links to sites such as http://www.casadeyork.com/jalv2/. > All of this would be in an organized and easy to understand fashon for > the public. > 2. With forums, you can better monitor posts, edit posts, delete > posts, organize posts, etc. > 3. Users would not be required to use the forum, they can use the > forums mailing list or post here or jallist. > 4. All messages about jalv2/jallib would be contained in a central > location under different topics. Web users could easily determin where > to post there questions, and where not to. Messages could be searched > by topic title. > > Someone mentioned that your messages should not be posted on the forum > without the author's permission. There are many other websites already > "copying" your content without permission, such as "http://www.mail- > archive.com/[email protected]/". I wish to have your permission, > I should have asked in the first place. > >> Your sending mail to my accounts without asking upset me. The thought >> of you setting up the forum to send posts from the forum to both jallib >> and jallist bothered me. I do not believe you meant to offend anyone, >> but it seems it did. Your intentions were good but your implementation was >> faulty. > > As I already said many times, It was a mistake that your emails > duplicated. Why does it bother you that the forum will post to jallib? > Only registered users of jallib will be able to post on the forum and > have there post show up here at jallib and in the jallib mailing list. > If a users posts on the forum and is not a jallib member, there > message will be blocked. > > I will not mirror jallib anymore unless you are willing to help by > being patient, give feedback, and have an open mind. > > I do not wish to own jalv2/jallib, Is there any way of having shared > rights to a domain name?Wayne, > >> I think you mean that there is no JALv2/jallib website. Well there is >> this mailing list and the Docs on the the google jallib page. You seen >> to think a forum would be an improvement over what is currently there. >> Why? > > What you have here is good, for you guys. I do not want to change what > you are doing since it is obvious that you do not want to change > anything. After the site is built, you can take a look at it and > decide weather you want to use it or not. > > The reason I mirrored jallib to the forum is that if I did this, you > would be able to use the same mailing list you are currently using > without me changing your life. However, somehow a few emails where > duplicated and sent to you. This is what made you upset, it was a > mistake. I wish you would give me a chance to fix it instead of > trashing my idea right away. If I was able to fix it so you do not > recieve extra mail, would this solution work for you? > >> What is better about the forum? > For you Wayne, nothing. I want your current mailing system to say the > same and not affect you at all. > > However, what is better for others is another story. > 1. jalv2/jallib website and forum will contain all info in one place. > Your jallib group can remain here the website can reflect the same > info you have here, jallist, and other docs, data, how-to's, etc. It > can contain links to sites such as http://www.casadeyork.com/jalv2/. > All of this would be in an organized and easy to understand fashon for > the public. > 2. With forums, you can better monitor posts, edit posts, delete > posts, organize posts, etc. > 3. Users would not be required to use the forum, they can use the > forums mailing list or post here or jallist. > 4. All messages about jalv2/jallib would be contained in a central > location under different topics. New users could easily determin where > to post there questions, and where not to. Messages could be searched > by topic title. > > Someone mentioned that your messages should not be posted on the forum > without the author's permission. There are many other websites already > "copying" your content without permission, such as "http://www.mail- > archive.com/[email protected]/". I wish to have your permission, > I should have asked in the first place. > >> Your sending mail to my accounts without asking upset me. The thought >> of you setting up the forum to send posts from the forum to both jallib >> and jallist bothered me. I do not believe you meant to offend anyone, >> but it seems it did. Your intentions were good but your implementation was >> faulty. > > As I already said many times, It was a mistake that your emails > duplicated. Why does it bother you that a forum will post to jallib? > Only registered users of jallib will be able to post on the forum and > have there post show up here at jallib and in the jallib mailing list. > If a users posts on the forum and is not a jallib member, there > message will be blocked. no spam. > > I do not wish to own jalv2/jallib, Is there any way of having shared > rights to a domain name? > > I will not mirror jallib anymore unless you are willing to help by > being patient, give feedback, and have an open mind. > > A website may be the way to go first, however I did not think building > a forum would affect anyone, I did not expect you to change your ways > and use a forum right away. I actually wanted to make sure a forum > with mailing list capability could actually be possible, and it is. > Maybe we can discuss jal.sunish.net more for now. > > Wayne, please let me know what you think and where we should go from > here.
Mat I do not wish to rain on your parade. You have expressed you opinion as have I. I think we can agree to disagree. Please carry on with you plan and I will sit back and observe. The old saying 'The proof is in the pudding' will prevail. I wish you well in your endeavors. Wayne --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "jallib" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jallib?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
