Vasi, what should be improved on the website? When you say "sustain a 
community", I assume you are suggesting we try to have one there. It wasn't 
built to make a community at the site, I have always wanted others to come 
to this community and jallist. Jallist now seems to be a bad place for new 
users of jallib.

I had 1777 sessions per day on the site last month (this google group had 
1,131), both according to Google Analytics. I have been doing some small 
bits of work on it lately. Feel free to assist :)

As for the issue of people that don't want to contribute, we can talk about 
making it easier for them. I don't think the issue is that their code has 
to be written correctly. What I do think the issues are, is that it is 
inconvenient to figure out how to use, and to always run jallib.py 
validate, then if it passes, it's difficult for some to use SVN. Fixing 
these 2 issues could be done with some code on a website. Anyways, I don't 
think this issue can be used as an excuse to not assist with keeping 
development alive, there are may of us still here.

Anyways, I think the topic here is to keep jallib "development" alive, not 
the community. Building the community is another discussion. I am looking 
forward to our next release, even if the community is low. Jallib needs 
assistance from us now, not after we fix the community.

Matt.

On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 8:35:00 AM UTC-4, funlw65(Vasi) wrote:
>
> The amount of newbies "converted" to Jallib and Jalv2 is directly 
> proportional with the involvement in justanotherlanguage.org which didn't 
> had a "live" blog like the one on blogger. The structure of that site is 
> terrible and there is no order.  Just "serving" jallib project won't create 
> and sustain a community. In fact, you can see now the results.
>
> Also, a good part in this are your strict rules regarding library and 
> examples contributions. People stopped sending contributions because of 
> this (just ask them). Like it or not.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Rob Hamerling <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>>
>> In the announcement of Jallib 1.0 we wrote:
>>
>>  PS: Because we (the core members of Jallib: Joep, Rob, Seb)
>>> consider Jallib as being mature now, we announce our retirement!
>>> We stay available for some time to help with the transfer of
>>> tasks, responsibilities, ownership, etc, to the next generation
>>> of maintainers!  ==>  Candidates are welcome to apply!
>>>
>>
>> Apart from one person who was already in the Jallib team no one seems to 
>> have understood that this means that it is time for you (yes, you 
>> personally!) to take over the maintenance and further development of 
>> Jallib. Why are you (yes, you personally!) waiting for someone else to 
>> volunteer? Is Jallib for you (yes, you personally!) not worth the effort to 
>> invest some time in?
>>
>> Rob.
>>
>>
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