A product developed, how much ever good it is technically or otherwise is a total waste unless someone buys it. Jallib development makes no sense unless its used by people to do real stuff and I think that's the point made by Vasi..
Sunish On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:45 PM, mattschinkel <[email protected]> wrote: > Vasi, what should be improved on the website? When you say "sustain a > community", I assume you are suggesting we try to have one there. It wasn't > built to make a community at the site, I have always wanted others to come > to this community and jallist. Jallist now seems to be a bad place for new > users of jallib. > > I had 1777 sessions per day on the site last month (this google group had > 1,131), both according to Google Analytics. I have been doing some small > bits of work on it lately. Feel free to assist :) > > As for the issue of people that don't want to contribute, we can talk > about making it easier for them. I don't think the issue is that their code > has to be written correctly. What I do think the issues are, is that it is > inconvenient to figure out how to use, and to always run jallib.py > validate, then if it passes, it's difficult for some to use SVN. Fixing > these 2 issues could be done with some code on a website. Anyways, I don't > think this issue can be used as an excuse to not assist with keeping > development alive, there are may of us still here. > > Anyways, I think the topic here is to keep jallib "development" alive, not > the community. Building the community is another discussion. I am looking > forward to our next release, even if the community is low. Jallib needs > assistance from us now, not after we fix the community. > > Matt. > > > On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 8:35:00 AM UTC-4, funlw65(Vasi) wrote: > >> The amount of newbies "converted" to Jallib and Jalv2 is directly >> proportional with the involvement in justanotherlanguage.org which >> didn't had a "live" blog like the one on blogger. The structure of that >> site is terrible and there is no order. Just "serving" jallib project >> won't create and sustain a community. In fact, you can see now the results. >> >> Also, a good part in this are your strict rules regarding library and >> examples contributions. People stopped sending contributions because of >> this (just ask them). Like it or not. >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Rob Hamerling <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> >>> In the announcement of Jallib 1.0 we wrote: >>> >>> PS: Because we (the core members of Jallib: Joep, Rob, Seb) >>>> consider Jallib as being mature now, we announce our retirement! >>>> We stay available for some time to help with the transfer of >>>> tasks, responsibilities, ownership, etc, to the next generation >>>> of maintainers! ==> Candidates are welcome to apply! >>>> >>> >>> Apart from one person who was already in the Jallib team no one seems to >>> have understood that this means that it is time for you (yes, you >>> personally!) to take over the maintenance and further development of >>> Jallib. Why are you (yes, you personally!) waiting for someone else to >>> volunteer? Is Jallib for you (yes, you personally!) not worth the effort to >>> invest some time in? >>> >>> Rob. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> R. Hamerling, Netherlands --- http://www.robh.nl >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "jallib" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jallib. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Vasi >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "jallib" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jallib. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "jallib" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jallib. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
