Wes Biggs wrote:

> > All your arguments are factually right. But pyschology is at work here, and
> > especially in an extremely important project like JDK porting (from my
> > perspective,  it is the second most important project after the kernel and at
> > times more important), you have to account for psychology, whether you're doing
> > work on a voluntary basis or not. It just makes things much smoother.
>
> You're confusing the Blackdown port of Sun's sources with truly free software.  Sun
> has paid lip service to GNU/Linux support to gain media attention and developer
> chic, but their supposed support of Java 2 on GNU/Linux seems to be more
> javax.swagger than javax.swing, and from a developer point of view, they've
> *increased* Blackdown's time-to-market by requiring JCK compatibility (I'm not
> arguing that this should be eliminated, just that this is the effect it has had).
> providing a clean-room class library implementation.

And you're confusing factually correct arguments with the workings of psychology. I'm
not arguing that the porting team should change anything, that Sun should change
anything, I'm not arguing about licensing styles, I'm just pointing out that when
probably tens of thousands of people are waiting for updates on your project, it is
probably wise to keep them informed. And I'm also pointing out that I do think the
porting team could be doing better in this area.


>
> Your assertion that the JDK is equivalent
> in importance to the kernel may have some meaning to you, but while the folks who
> are doing the GNU/Linux port may be more involved with Sun than you or I, they're
> still not the ones calling the shots.

Correction - read "Java2-compatible JVM" here. With "JDK" I don't necessarily mean
Sun's, and I'm longing for the day that Japhar or Kaffee can compete (I cannot
cooperate, I've signed the JDK source license; you can bet I would have put SGMLtools
in the fridge for the opportunity to work on a truly free VM)



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