On Wed, Dec 08, 1999 at 03:15:32AM +0100, Juergen Kreileder wrote:
> I didn't say so. I don't have problems with somebody using our code.
> This is about respect! What we have now is stuff like:
>
> 'The Sun/Inprise JDK is xx times faster than that Blackdown crap.'
>
> 'Finally! Those script kiddies at Blackdown didn't have a clue'
>
> You get the song of praise --- we did the dirty work.
Well, first I didn't see anything like that and I hope it will never
be posted. Second, everybody knows that you have been the first to
port Java to Linux. I personally mentioned your JDK in all the demos I
have done of JBuilder for Linux at our user conference (~3000 people)
in Philadelphia and during the LWCE. I hope also the interviews with
the credit to your work will appear soon.
> Paolo> As I said before this is really a cooperative effort that
> Paolo> shows what can be obtained when there's will to improve
> Paolo> things. You guys gave us the ground to convince the right
> Paolo> people to sponsor this project. We have, in our modest
> Paolo> opinion, produced a production quality JDK. If the two
> Paolo> things can be merged this will go just at benefit of all
> Paolo> community. As you know very well porting and testing the
> Paolo> JDK is quite a task. It has not been cheap to do it and we
>
> Do you think our port was cheap? We don't get paid for our efforts
> and expenses.
I never said so, my point is that no company will sponsor a project
like this if there's a way of avoiding it. From the balance sheet
there's just cost and no profit. We had to allocate additional
resources and had to work on two, no, three projects: the JDK,
JBuilder Solaris edition and JBuilder for Linux. In addition to this
we had a deadline set.
> How can there be competetion when people working on the Sun/Inprise
> JDK are on our internal mailing list and have access to our CVS
> archive?
Ok, the fact are as follows, you can believe my words or not. We
started with the patches for 1.2.1 and applied them to Solaris JDK
1.2.2. From that point on we didn't take any other snapshots and just
fixed the problems as we found them. The first attempt compiled but
didn't run and JPDA didn't work at all. The mailing list was actually
not reporting anything about the on going 1.2.2 Blackdown port, we
were surprised like anybody else when we saw your RC1. From the point
of applying the patches to the final release, this has been a parallel
effort.
Juergen, I'm truly sorry of all these misunderstandings, I hope you'll
see that we didn't mean to harm your excellent work in any respect.
--
Paolo Ciccone
JBuilder dev.team
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