Hey everybody,
yes, we know - we know that when we talk about the iPhone we irritate
some people, so we actually try to not to do it as much we otherwise
would have. But we're all pretty passionate people, and since all four
of us have iphones, and all four of us have Macs (well Dick has one,
but his primary setup is on Linux), it's pretty natural that it
becomes part of the conversation - especially when we're discussing
issues like user interface, productivity, and so on.

We were discussing the Android news last night (for the next episode)
and I think we were able to stay mostly on Android-topic...

As I've said before -- I don't admire Apple's Java policy. I don't
admire their developer polibcy. I don't admire their tight lipped
plans policy. And I hope Android succeeds since I'd rather have an
open functional device than a closed functional device. But I also
admire polished products that work.

-- Tor

On Oct 6, 12:49 am, gullcatcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dick, Joe, Carl, Tor
>
> I've been listening to the JavaPosse since episode 16. I would
> consider myself a long time listener.
>
> It's always interesting hearing you guys rap knowledgeably about
> matters technical, whether it be Scala or Java or whatever.
>
> I appreciate you only have the time to cover everything. I realise
> this isn't your day job.
>
> But guys. Seriously. Shut up about the iPhone. I haven't got an
> iPhone. I don't want an iPhone. I'm so frickin' bored of the iPhone
> talk. I have a little more tolerance with the Apple bias, but you
> know, even that's getting tired.
>
> Java seems to be a second class citizen in the world of Apple
> products, and the portable devices aren't very developer friendly. So,
> tell me, where does this fit in with a Java developer's listening
> agenda?
>
> Please, don't jump the shark you guys.
>
> William Ruben
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