On Jul 19, 4:00 am, vogella <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> does anyone know if the Sun / Orcacle is really working on / planning
> for OpenOffice on JavaFX or if this is just a rumor?
>
> Best regards, Lars
Just read this
http://blog.devx.com/2009/06/ellison-hints-at-oracles-java.html
And of course, the anti-Java camp is already encouraging opposition to
the idea... starting with this guy Gavin Clarke whom rarely sees
ANYTHING GOOD coming from Sun, and particularly Java...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/04/ellison_javafx_commitment/
Quotes:
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"Unlike the rest of the Java, JavaFX has not been submitted to the
Java Community Process (JCP). Sun has never explained why, it's just
dodged the subject saying it still believes in the JCP, which is like
saying you believe communism is a good idea but that it's just not for
you.
(...)
Sun might be the principal backer of OpenOffice, but there are major
contributors and adopters who will likely disagree for political and
technical reasons with the task of re-writing OpenOffice in JavaFX.
Java's long been a pissing contest with IBM, Sun, Oracle and BEA
trying to rest some form of control over the platform, or subtly lock
in their users via features.
Just because BEA and Sun are gone or going doesn't mean this contest
will now stop. IBM, Novell, Red Hat and Google are all major
contributors and none has expressed an interest in JavaFX. IBM and
Google have, infact, been prime movers and supporters of AJAX. You
should expect them to resist moving OpenOffice to JavaFX, a technology
that's unproven, owned by Oracle, considered inferior by some experts
and that would - as a result - take OpenOffice right outside of the
developer mainstream."
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Comparing JavaFX and communism huh? the Java community is lucky Clarke
didn't use any reference to Stalin or Hitler...
I think JavaFX has a chance to gain widespread usage IF Sun/Oracle is
able to TIE IT with Google Docs. How? Easy: first create a
"spreadsheet viewer" and "Word viewer" in JavaFX. Then, let it
reference a Google Docs document URL, and load the document inside
this JavaFX application. Being JavaFX, it would have a lot of features
impossible to match from Ajax: dock to systray, Print, Print Preview,
etc.
If you let me guess Ellison's idea, I think it's "moving OpenOffice to
a lightweight web version" rather than dropping the current "fat" OO.o
client. I think BOTH versions need to co-exist. For instance for
licensing reasons, I don't think Linux distros would be able to ship a
non-GPL OpenOffice including or requiring JavaFX (which AFAIK includes
a MPEG4 codec which is not GPL -correct me if I'm wrong-).
By the way, this reminds me of IBM and its seemingly never-ending list
of missed opportunities. A decade ago, Lotus worked on a Java (1.1)
based version of Smartsuite, finally releasing the "eSuite" series of
Java applets, that were dropped a few months later.
http://news.cnet.com/Lotus-unveils-Java-office-suite/2100-1001_3-204932.html
btw: Sun had a great Java and OO.o expert that would be ideal for this
job of integrating JavaFX with OO.o, but they let him go to SAP: Erwin
Tenhumberg
FC
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