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Paul. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Michael Neale<[email protected]> wrote: > > If you were able to qualify, somehow, some well timed snipers could > help with that. Anything is possible ;) > > I would like to see javafx play the part of flash in web apps that > need it, not necessarily do all the UI up front. > > On Jul 20, 1:49 pm, Steven Herod <[email protected]> wrote: >> I think it was hyperbole. >> >> As much as I love it, JavaFX is about as ready to take on the job of >> providing the front end of open Office as I am capable of winning the >> 100 metre gold medal at the next Olympics. >> >> On Jul 20, 11:17 am, Michael Neale <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > I think its pretty safe to say it will go nowhere (happy to see >> > otherwise happen). >> >> > It is probably due to Larry knowing that with Sun, he now gets a lot >> > of Open Office, and JavaFX, and figures (I like them both, one can >> > make the other better) - but that is as far as it has gotten. I >> > wouldn't be surprised if it was made up on the spot, and will be the >> > last we hear of it. >> >> > Another idea (which I think was mentioned in the podcast) was that >> > javafx (or perhaps fx + ajax) could be used for a "in the cloud" >> > OpenOffice (as Oracle do like to take on MS etc). >> >> > On Jul 20, 6:47 am, vogella <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > I heard about Larry suggesting this on JavaOne, but I was wondering if >> > > Sun /Oracle did already started working on this. Or at least if >> > > someone started to plan the details. >> >> > > I personally think that would be wounderful to have OO running via >> > > JavaFX, this might then also the door opener for Java(FX) on Linux. >> >> > > On 19 Jul., 09:57, fcassia08 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > On Jul 19, 4:00 am, vogella <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > Hi, >> >> > > > > does anyone know if the Sun / Orcacle is really working on / planning >> > > > > for OpenOffice on JavaFX or if this is just a rumor? >> >> > > > > Best regards, Lars >> >> > > > Just read >> > > > thishttp://blog.devx.com/2009/06/ellison-hints-at-oracles-java.html >> >> > > > And of course, the anti-Java camp is already encouraging opposition to >> > > > the idea... starting with this guy Gavin Clarke whom rarely sees >> > > > ANYTHING GOOD coming from Sun, and particularly Java... >> >> > > >http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/04/ellison_javafx_commitment/ >> >> > > > Quotes: >> > > > ///////////////////// >> > > > "Unlike the rest of the Java, JavaFX has not been submitted to the >> > > > Java Community Process (JCP). Sun has never explained why, it's just >> > > > dodged the subject saying it still believes in the JCP, which is like >> > > > saying you believe communism is a good idea but that it's just not for >> > > > you. >> > > > (...) >> > > > Sun might be the principal backer of OpenOffice, but there are major >> > > > contributors and adopters who will likely disagree for political and >> > > > technical reasons with the task of re-writing OpenOffice in JavaFX. >> > > > Java's long been a pissing contest with IBM, Sun, Oracle and BEA >> > > > trying to rest some form of control over the platform, or subtly lock >> > > > in their users via features. >> >> > > > Just because BEA and Sun are gone or going doesn't mean this contest >> > > > will now stop. IBM, Novell, Red Hat and Google are all major >> > > > contributors and none has expressed an interest in JavaFX. IBM and >> > > > Google have, infact, been prime movers and supporters of AJAX. You >> > > > should expect them to resist moving OpenOffice to JavaFX, a technology >> > > > that's unproven, owned by Oracle, considered inferior by some experts >> > > > and that would - as a result - take OpenOffice right outside of the >> > > > developer mainstream." >> > > > ////////////// >> >> > > > Comparing JavaFX and communism huh? the Java community is lucky Clarke >> > > > didn't use any reference to Stalin or Hitler... >> >> > > > I think JavaFX has a chance to gain widespread usage IF Sun/Oracle is >> > > > able to TIE IT with Google Docs. How? Easy: first create a >> > > > "spreadsheet viewer" and "Word viewer" in JavaFX. Then, let it >> > > > reference a Google Docs document URL, and load the document inside >> > > > this JavaFX application. Being JavaFX, it would have a lot of features >> > > > impossible to match from Ajax: dock to systray, Print, Print Preview, >> > > > etc. >> >> > > > If you let me guess Ellison's idea, I think it's "moving OpenOffice to >> > > > a lightweight web version" rather than dropping the current "fat" OO.o >> > > > client. I think BOTH versions need to co-exist. For instance for >> > > > licensing reasons, I don't think Linux distros would be able to ship a >> > > > non-GPL OpenOffice including or requiring JavaFX (which AFAIK includes >> > > > a MPEG4 codec which is not GPL -correct me if I'm wrong-). >> >> > > > By the way, this reminds me of IBM and its seemingly never-ending list >> > > > of missed opportunities. A decade ago, Lotus worked on a Java (1.1) >> > > > based version of Smartsuite, finally releasing the "eSuite" series of >> > > > Java applets, that were dropped a few months later. >> >> > > >http://news.cnet.com/Lotus-unveils-Java-office-suite/2100-1001_3-2049... >> >> > > > btw: Sun had a great Java and OO.o expert that would be ideal for this >> > > > job of integrating JavaFX with OO.o, but they let him go to SAP: Erwin >> > > > Tenhumberg >> >> > > > FC > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
