I think its pretty safe to say it will go nowhere (happy to see otherwise happen).
It is probably due to Larry knowing that with Sun, he now gets a lot of Open Office, and JavaFX, and figures (I like them both, one can make the other better) - but that is as far as it has gotten. I wouldn't be surprised if it was made up on the spot, and will be the last we hear of it. Another idea (which I think was mentioned in the podcast) was that javafx (or perhaps fx + ajax) could be used for a "in the cloud" OpenOffice (as Oracle do like to take on MS etc). On Jul 20, 6:47 am, vogella <[email protected]> wrote: > I heard about Larry suggesting this on JavaOne, but I was wondering if > Sun /Oracle did already started working on this. Or at least if > someone started to plan the details. > > I personally think that would be wounderful to have OO running via > JavaFX, this might then also the door opener for Java(FX) on Linux. > > On 19 Jul., 09:57, fcassia08 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 19, 4:00 am, vogella <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > does anyone know if the Sun / Orcacle is really working on / planning > > > for OpenOffice on JavaFX or if this is just a rumor? > > > > Best regards, Lars > > > Just read > > thishttp://blog.devx.com/2009/06/ellison-hints-at-oracles-java.html > > > And of course, the anti-Java camp is already encouraging opposition to > > the idea... starting with this guy Gavin Clarke whom rarely sees > > ANYTHING GOOD coming from Sun, and particularly Java... > > >http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/04/ellison_javafx_commitment/ > > > Quotes: > > ///////////////////// > > "Unlike the rest of the Java, JavaFX has not been submitted to the > > Java Community Process (JCP). Sun has never explained why, it's just > > dodged the subject saying it still believes in the JCP, which is like > > saying you believe communism is a good idea but that it's just not for > > you. > > (...) > > Sun might be the principal backer of OpenOffice, but there are major > > contributors and adopters who will likely disagree for political and > > technical reasons with the task of re-writing OpenOffice in JavaFX. > > Java's long been a pissing contest with IBM, Sun, Oracle and BEA > > trying to rest some form of control over the platform, or subtly lock > > in their users via features. > > > Just because BEA and Sun are gone or going doesn't mean this contest > > will now stop. IBM, Novell, Red Hat and Google are all major > > contributors and none has expressed an interest in JavaFX. IBM and > > Google have, infact, been prime movers and supporters of AJAX. You > > should expect them to resist moving OpenOffice to JavaFX, a technology > > that's unproven, owned by Oracle, considered inferior by some experts > > and that would - as a result - take OpenOffice right outside of the > > developer mainstream." > > ////////////// > > > Comparing JavaFX and communism huh? the Java community is lucky Clarke > > didn't use any reference to Stalin or Hitler... > > > I think JavaFX has a chance to gain widespread usage IF Sun/Oracle is > > able to TIE IT with Google Docs. How? Easy: first create a > > "spreadsheet viewer" and "Word viewer" in JavaFX. Then, let it > > reference a Google Docs document URL, and load the document inside > > this JavaFX application. Being JavaFX, it would have a lot of features > > impossible to match from Ajax: dock to systray, Print, Print Preview, > > etc. > > > If you let me guess Ellison's idea, I think it's "moving OpenOffice to > > a lightweight web version" rather than dropping the current "fat" OO.o > > client. I think BOTH versions need to co-exist. For instance for > > licensing reasons, I don't think Linux distros would be able to ship a > > non-GPL OpenOffice including or requiring JavaFX (which AFAIK includes > > a MPEG4 codec which is not GPL -correct me if I'm wrong-). > > > By the way, this reminds me of IBM and its seemingly never-ending list > > of missed opportunities. A decade ago, Lotus worked on a Java (1.1) > > based version of Smartsuite, finally releasing the "eSuite" series of > > Java applets, that were dropped a few months later. > > >http://news.cnet.com/Lotus-unveils-Java-office-suite/2100-1001_3-2049... > > > btw: Sun had a great Java and OO.o expert that would be ideal for this > > job of integrating JavaFX with OO.o, but they let him go to SAP: Erwin > > Tenhumberg > > > FC --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
