I heard about Larry suggesting this on JavaOne, but I was wondering if Sun /Oracle did already started working on this. Or at least if someone started to plan the details.
I personally think that would be wounderful to have OO running via JavaFX, this might then also the door opener for Java(FX) on Linux. On 19 Jul., 09:57, fcassia08 <[email protected]> wrote: > On Jul 19, 4:00 am, vogella <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > does anyone know if the Sun / Orcacle is really working on / planning > > for OpenOffice on JavaFX or if this is just a rumor? > > > Best regards, Lars > > Just read thishttp://blog.devx.com/2009/06/ellison-hints-at-oracles-java.html > > And of course, the anti-Java camp is already encouraging opposition to > the idea... starting with this guy Gavin Clarke whom rarely sees > ANYTHING GOOD coming from Sun, and particularly Java... > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/04/ellison_javafx_commitment/ > > Quotes: > ///////////////////// > "Unlike the rest of the Java, JavaFX has not been submitted to the > Java Community Process (JCP). Sun has never explained why, it's just > dodged the subject saying it still believes in the JCP, which is like > saying you believe communism is a good idea but that it's just not for > you. > (...) > Sun might be the principal backer of OpenOffice, but there are major > contributors and adopters who will likely disagree for political and > technical reasons with the task of re-writing OpenOffice in JavaFX. > Java's long been a pissing contest with IBM, Sun, Oracle and BEA > trying to rest some form of control over the platform, or subtly lock > in their users via features. > > Just because BEA and Sun are gone or going doesn't mean this contest > will now stop. IBM, Novell, Red Hat and Google are all major > contributors and none has expressed an interest in JavaFX. IBM and > Google have, infact, been prime movers and supporters of AJAX. You > should expect them to resist moving OpenOffice to JavaFX, a technology > that's unproven, owned by Oracle, considered inferior by some experts > and that would - as a result - take OpenOffice right outside of the > developer mainstream." > ////////////// > > Comparing JavaFX and communism huh? the Java community is lucky Clarke > didn't use any reference to Stalin or Hitler... > > I think JavaFX has a chance to gain widespread usage IF Sun/Oracle is > able to TIE IT with Google Docs. How? Easy: first create a > "spreadsheet viewer" and "Word viewer" in JavaFX. Then, let it > reference a Google Docs document URL, and load the document inside > this JavaFX application. Being JavaFX, it would have a lot of features > impossible to match from Ajax: dock to systray, Print, Print Preview, > etc. > > If you let me guess Ellison's idea, I think it's "moving OpenOffice to > a lightweight web version" rather than dropping the current "fat" OO.o > client. I think BOTH versions need to co-exist. For instance for > licensing reasons, I don't think Linux distros would be able to ship a > non-GPL OpenOffice including or requiring JavaFX (which AFAIK includes > a MPEG4 codec which is not GPL -correct me if I'm wrong-). > > By the way, this reminds me of IBM and its seemingly never-ending list > of missed opportunities. A decade ago, Lotus worked on a Java (1.1) > based version of Smartsuite, finally releasing the "eSuite" series of > Java applets, that were dropped a few months later. > > http://news.cnet.com/Lotus-unveils-Java-office-suite/2100-1001_3-2049... > > btw: Sun had a great Java and OO.o expert that would be ideal for this > job of integrating JavaFX with OO.o, but they let him go to SAP: Erwin > Tenhumberg > > FC --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
