I think it was hyperbole.

As much as I love it, JavaFX is about as ready to take on the job of
providing the front end of open Office as I am capable of winning the
100 metre gold medal at the next Olympics.



On Jul 20, 11:17 am, Michael Neale <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think its pretty safe to say it will go nowhere (happy to see
> otherwise happen).
>
> It is probably due to Larry knowing that with Sun, he now gets a lot
> of Open Office, and JavaFX, and figures (I like them both, one can
> make the other better) - but that is as far as it has gotten. I
> wouldn't be surprised if it was made up on the spot, and will be the
> last we hear of it.
>
> Another idea (which I think was mentioned in the podcast) was that
> javafx (or perhaps fx + ajax) could be used for a "in the cloud"
> OpenOffice (as Oracle do like to take on MS etc).
>
> On Jul 20, 6:47 am, vogella <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I heard about Larry suggesting this on JavaOne, but I was wondering if
> > Sun /Oracle did already started working on this. Or at least if
> > someone started to plan the details.
>
> > I personally think that would be wounderful to  have OO running via
> > JavaFX, this might then also the door opener for Java(FX) on Linux.
>
> > On 19 Jul., 09:57, fcassia08 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 19, 4:00 am, vogella <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi,
>
> > > > does anyone know if the Sun / Orcacle is really working on / planning
> > > > for  OpenOffice on JavaFX or if this is just a rumor?
>
> > > > Best regards, Lars
>
> > > Just read 
> > > thishttp://blog.devx.com/2009/06/ellison-hints-at-oracles-java.html
>
> > > And of course, the anti-Java camp is already encouraging opposition to
> > > the idea... starting with this guy Gavin Clarke whom rarely sees
> > > ANYTHING GOOD coming from Sun, and particularly Java...
>
> > >http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/04/ellison_javafx_commitment/
>
> > > Quotes:
> > > /////////////////////
> > > "Unlike the rest of the Java, JavaFX has not been submitted to the
> > > Java Community Process (JCP). Sun has never explained why, it's just
> > > dodged the subject saying it still believes in the JCP, which is like
> > > saying you believe communism is a good idea but that it's just not for
> > > you.
> > > (...)
> > > Sun might be the principal backer of OpenOffice, but there are major
> > > contributors and adopters who will likely disagree for political and
> > > technical reasons with the task of re-writing OpenOffice in JavaFX.
> > > Java's long been a pissing contest with IBM, Sun, Oracle and BEA
> > > trying to rest some form of control over the platform, or subtly lock
> > > in their users via features.
>
> > > Just because BEA and Sun are gone or going doesn't mean this contest
> > > will now stop. IBM, Novell, Red Hat and Google are all major
> > > contributors and none has expressed an interest in JavaFX. IBM and
> > > Google have, infact, been prime movers and supporters of AJAX. You
> > > should expect them to resist moving OpenOffice to JavaFX, a technology
> > > that's unproven, owned by Oracle, considered inferior by some experts
> > > and that would - as a result - take OpenOffice right outside of the
> > > developer mainstream."
> > > //////////////
>
> > > Comparing JavaFX and communism huh? the Java community is lucky Clarke
> > > didn't use any reference to Stalin or Hitler...
>
> > > I think JavaFX has a chance to gain widespread usage IF Sun/Oracle is
> > > able to TIE IT with Google Docs. How? Easy: first create a
> > > "spreadsheet viewer" and "Word viewer" in JavaFX. Then, let it
> > > reference a Google Docs document URL, and load the document inside
> > > this JavaFX application. Being JavaFX, it would have a lot of features
> > > impossible to match from Ajax: dock to systray, Print, Print Preview,
> > > etc.
>
> > > If you let me guess Ellison's idea, I think it's "moving OpenOffice to
> > > a lightweight web version" rather than dropping the current "fat" OO.o
> > > client. I think BOTH versions need to co-exist. For instance for
> > > licensing reasons, I don't think Linux distros would be able to ship a
> > > non-GPL OpenOffice including or requiring JavaFX (which AFAIK includes
> > > a MPEG4 codec which is not GPL -correct me if I'm wrong-).
>
> > > By the way, this reminds me of IBM and its seemingly never-ending list
> > > of missed opportunities. A decade ago, Lotus worked on a Java (1.1)
> > > based version of Smartsuite, finally releasing the "eSuite" series of
> > > Java applets, that were dropped a few months later.
>
> > >http://news.cnet.com/Lotus-unveils-Java-office-suite/2100-1001_3-2049...
>
> > > btw: Sun had a great Java and OO.o expert that would be ideal for this
> > > job of integrating JavaFX with OO.o, but they let him go to SAP: Erwin
> > > Tenhumberg
>
> > > FC
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