I think a good example of what could be achieved by RIA framwork (Flex in that matter) is Acrobat.com. It contains tools for online collaboration - Buzzword, Tables and Presentations, last two are in labs (link at the bottom right of Acrobat.com). Acrobat.com has also AIR app for install. It can also be used from within Outlook (haven't checked how it works). Other contender is Java-based ThinkFree Office.
I think JavaFX needs this kind of show of applications - big, engaging and useful. I know it is not ready yet and I hope it is months not years away from being ready to enable this kind of experience. On Jul 20, 9:22 am, Michael Neale <[email protected]> wrote: > If you were able to qualify, somehow, some well timed snipers could > help with that. Anything is possible ;) > > I would like to see javafx play the part of flash in web apps that > need it, not necessarily do all the UI up front. > > On Jul 20, 1:49 pm, Steven Herod <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I think it was hyperbole. > > > As much as I love it, JavaFX is about as ready to take on the job of > > providing the front end of open Office as I am capable of winning the > > 100 metre gold medal at the next Olympics. > > > On Jul 20, 11:17 am, Michael Neale <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I think its pretty safe to say it will go nowhere (happy to see > > > otherwise happen). > > > > It is probably due to Larry knowing that with Sun, he now gets a lot > > > of Open Office, and JavaFX, and figures (I like them both, one can > > > make the other better) - but that is as far as it has gotten. I > > > wouldn't be surprised if it was made up on the spot, and will be the > > > last we hear of it. > > > > Another idea (which I think was mentioned in the podcast) was that > > > javafx (or perhaps fx + ajax) could be used for a "in the cloud" > > > OpenOffice (as Oracle do like to take on MS etc). > > > > On Jul 20, 6:47 am, vogella <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I heard about Larry suggesting this on JavaOne, but I was wondering if > > > > Sun /Oracle did already started working on this. Or at least if > > > > someone started to plan the details. > > > > > I personally think that would be wounderful to have OO running via > > > > JavaFX, this might then also the door opener for Java(FX) on Linux. > > > > > On 19 Jul., 09:57, fcassia08 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 19, 4:00 am, vogella <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > does anyone know if the Sun / Orcacle is really working on / > > > > > > planning > > > > > > for OpenOffice on JavaFX or if this is just a rumor? > > > > > > > Best regards, Lars > > > > > > Just read > > > > > thishttp://blog.devx.com/2009/06/ellison-hints-at-oracles-java.html > > > > > > And of course, the anti-Java camp is already encouraging opposition to > > > > > the idea... starting with this guy Gavin Clarke whom rarely sees > > > > > ANYTHING GOOD coming from Sun, and particularly Java... > > > > > >http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/04/ellison_javafx_commitment/ > > > > > > Quotes: > > > > > ///////////////////// > > > > > "Unlike the rest of the Java, JavaFX has not been submitted to the > > > > > Java Community Process (JCP). Sun has never explained why, it's just > > > > > dodged the subject saying it still believes in the JCP, which is like > > > > > saying you believe communism is a good idea but that it's just not for > > > > > you. > > > > > (...) > > > > > Sun might be the principal backer of OpenOffice, but there are major > > > > > contributors and adopters who will likely disagree for political and > > > > > technical reasons with the task of re-writing OpenOffice in JavaFX. > > > > > Java's long been a pissing contest with IBM, Sun, Oracle and BEA > > > > > trying to rest some form of control over the platform, or subtly lock > > > > > in their users via features. > > > > > > Just because BEA and Sun are gone or going doesn't mean this contest > > > > > will now stop. IBM, Novell, Red Hat and Google are all major > > > > > contributors and none has expressed an interest in JavaFX. IBM and > > > > > Google have, infact, been prime movers and supporters of AJAX. You > > > > > should expect them to resist moving OpenOffice to JavaFX, a technology > > > > > that's unproven, owned by Oracle, considered inferior by some experts > > > > > and that would - as a result - take OpenOffice right outside of the > > > > > developer mainstream." > > > > > ////////////// > > > > > > Comparing JavaFX and communism huh? the Java community is lucky Clarke > > > > > didn't use any reference to Stalin or Hitler... > > > > > > I think JavaFX has a chance to gain widespread usage IF Sun/Oracle is > > > > > able to TIE IT with Google Docs. How? Easy: first create a > > > > > "spreadsheet viewer" and "Word viewer" in JavaFX. Then, let it > > > > > reference a Google Docs document URL, and load the document inside > > > > > this JavaFX application. Being JavaFX, it would have a lot of features > > > > > impossible to match from Ajax: dock to systray, Print, Print Preview, > > > > > etc. > > > > > > If you let me guess Ellison's idea, I think it's "moving OpenOffice to > > > > > a lightweight web version" rather than dropping the current "fat" OO.o > > > > > client. I think BOTH versions need to co-exist. For instance for > > > > > licensing reasons, I don't think Linux distros would be able to ship a > > > > > non-GPL OpenOffice including or requiring JavaFX (which AFAIK includes > > > > > a MPEG4 codec which is not GPL -correct me if I'm wrong-). > > > > > > By the way, this reminds me of IBM and its seemingly never-ending list > > > > > of missed opportunities. A decade ago, Lotus worked on a Java (1.1) > > > > > based version of Smartsuite, finally releasing the "eSuite" series of > > > > > Java applets, that were dropped a few months later. > > > > > >http://news.cnet.com/Lotus-unveils-Java-office-suite/2100-1001_3-2049... > > > > > > btw: Sun had a great Java and OO.o expert that would be ideal for this > > > > > job of integrating JavaFX with OO.o, but they let him go to SAP: Erwin > > > > > Tenhumberg > > > > > > FC --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
