I think this thread made it sound as though Ruby got ripped to shreds
in our podcast -- and that's far from the case. I chose it as one of
the two languages I would bring to a desert island! Dick and I
disagree about active record - in particular I think JPA itself is not
nearly as elegant as Active Record (with the caveat that for
connecting to existing stuff it's good). But I think Ruby the
language gets a lot of respect - there's a bunch of things I like in
there, many that I missed in Python (when I worked on NetBeans Python
support after the Ruby support), and many I want to see added in a
future Java - such as heredocs (<<), regexp (and other) literals, and #
{} expression nesting in strings (JavaFX luckily has this one). One
thing I think Python got right was to embed documentations as program
elements (strings) rather than comments, but I'm not as fond as Dick
of the indentation-based syntax.
(It -is- true that the lack of a spec is a problem. Somebody pointed
to a spec but that's really a wiki in progress, started just a couple
of years ago and the language is as old as Java. As a user it probably
isn't a big deal, but for alternate implementation implementers, and
for tools vendors, it's a problem.)
-- Tor
On Jul 23, 7:06 pm, CKoerner <[email protected]> wrote:
> I didn't care for the way ROR was treated (except for Tor's who's
> actually worked with Ruby and worked with Rails). Hearing dispariging
> dismissals of ActiveRecord by Dick who I believe has practically nil
> experience with it ... seriously. ROR had alot of Hype but it proved
> it was up to it and to laugh and ask "Who uses ROR anymore?" just
> makes you sound like an idiot.
>
> Anytime you guys throw out Python its treated respectfully, and Ruby
> is treated like a 'Red' headed step child. Whats the deal with the
> bias?
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