Actually Zed Shaw is using quite a bit of python, for his opensource project http://lamsonproject.org/
he's also using Django as web framework, as you can see in his blog entry here http://zedshaw.com/blog/2009-07-19.html In terms of community, there certainly seems to have no shortage of controversies, such as the one at Golden Gate Ruby Conference. On Jul 24, 5:17 pm, Chris <[email protected]> wrote: > Dick I think alot of your notions are derived from the Ruby community > circa 2004. I'll admit the everyone one was over the top on Ruby then > and for bit after but things are not that way anymore. The community > has 'grown up' in many ways... and leaders in it help to ensure it > keeps growing up (See the absolutely fantastic RailsConf presentation > by "What killed smalltalk could kill Ruby Too" talk by Uncle Bob > :http://railsconf.blip.tv/file/2089545/). > > Earlier someone made reference to Zed Shaw's rant posts as an example. > You realize he deleted them because things have changed, he is doing > Ruby work these days. > > I've spent alot of time doing Ruby and no Java and I don't dismiss > Java in the least. I did choose ROR because I felt overwhelmed with > the many Java web frameworks, but I wasn't dismissive of them. I've > listen to every single Java Possee episode (even the 2 episodes prior > to becoming Java Possee) even though I don't code in Java. Java was > there everyday that I did my ROR programming though, because my IDE of > choice was Netbeans. > > What irks me is to hear you talk down Ruby on the one hand and be > respectful of Python on the other simply because you prefer Python. > Can't you just be respectful of both regardless? I really think you > have this outdated vision of the Ruby community from years ago and it > colors all of your comments. > > Rails recent release added more support for working with Legacy > Databases. Everyone recognizes that few get to work with greenfield > apps in established companies but is it any fairer to say Java is best > for Legacy Apps and ROR is better for greenfield? No. > > The way you dismiss Ruby at times is much like how Leo Leporte > dismisses Java ("Oh Java is slow"), you don't like hearing that and > anymore then people who've worked in Ruby like hearing you be so > dismissive of Ruby/Rails. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
