Yeah, I hadn't progressed that far into the episode yet, but if the java community was as sensitive as CKoerner we'd all have committed suicide by now.
On Jul 25, 2:25 am, TorNorbye <[email protected]> wrote: > I think this thread made it sound as though Ruby got ripped to shreds > in our podcast -- and that's far from the case. I chose it as one of > the two languages I would bring to a desert island! Dick and I > disagree about active record - in particular I think JPA itself is not > nearly as elegant as Active Record (with the caveat that for > connecting to existing stuff it's good). But I think Ruby the > language gets a lot of respect - there's a bunch of things I like in > there, many that I missed in Python (when I worked on NetBeans Python > support after the Ruby support), and many I want to see added in a > future Java - such as heredocs (<<), regexp (and other) literals, and # > {} expression nesting in strings (JavaFX luckily has this one). One > thing I think Python got right was to embed documentations as program > elements (strings) rather than comments, but I'm not as fond as Dick > of the indentation-based syntax. > > (It -is- true that the lack of a spec is a problem. Somebody pointed > to a spec but that's really a wiki in progress, started just a couple > of years ago and the language is as old as Java. As a user it probably > isn't a big deal, but for alternate implementation implementers, and > for tools vendors, it's a problem.) > > -- Tor > > On Jul 23, 7:06 pm, CKoerner <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I didn't care for the way ROR was treated (except for Tor's who's > > actually worked with Ruby and worked with Rails). Hearing dispariging > > dismissals of ActiveRecord by Dick who I believe has practically nil > > experience with it ... seriously. ROR had alot of Hype but it proved > > it was up to it and to laugh and ask "Who uses ROR anymore?" just > > makes you sound like an idiot. > > > Anytime you guys throw out Python its treated respectfully, and Ruby > > is treated like a 'Red' headed step child. Whats the deal with the > > bias? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
