On Jan 22, 4:17 pm, Casper Bang <[email protected]> wrote: > > I suppose you mean "syncing with a PC" vs "syncing with the cloud". > > My iTunes syncs my music, video, movies, play lists, podcasts, iTunes > > U lectures, audio books and Outlook contacts / appointments with my > > iPhone with a single app (though iTunes for Windows is pretty slow > > when syncing on my laptop). Now I assume I can't do that all with a > > single app on Google, so I lose convenience here. > > Yeah, but why the need to sync in the first place? Sync should just > happen automatically according to connection policies/profiles, > without you thinking about it - surely that's also very much the Apple > way?
Not sure what your point is - I sync because I want to use the same content on different devices. My point was that iTunes syncs most of my content to the iPhone, which I believe Android can't do. > > "syncing != copying" - when I sync pod casts, audio books or iTunes U > > lectures, then iTunes remembers the position in the respective files. > > For music, iTunes syncs the amount of time a song was played or its > > rating no matter whether those changes came from the laptop or the > > iPhone (I have automatic play lists based on both of these). I still > > have an old iPod classic with some videos I want to watch and a little > > Shuffle for sports, and they both get synced with iTunes, too. > > I had an iPod Nano, it would always be a nightmare to sync from iTunes > because my music collection was bigger than the 8GB nano. So there are > some things you just can't do naive sync on due to capacity and > bandwidth limitations. This device restriction will always be there, no matter whether you sync with a PC or with the cloud (I use playlists to automatically sync just a subset of my music / audio books to my Shuffle). > > And finally, I'm a freelance and often on a client site where my > > iPhone isn't allowed on the WiFi network, so I rely on the iPhone 3G > > connection there (my laptop is connected to the Internet). My iPhone > > price plan here in Germany only allows for 300 MB combined download/ > > upload per month at full speed, after that, I get dropped to 64kBit/s > > (I'm on Vodafone, T-Mobile plans suck in the same way). So syncing a > > single iTunes U lecture would max me out for two months (the Stanford > > iPhone dev ones are 500-700 MB per lecture). > > So don't waste your bandwidth/money doing naive sync over HSPA and > wait until you are on wifi. You may love your Mac, but why require > everyone to have to go through a master/host - make the phone a first > class citizen. Sometimes I just don't want to wait until the evening to get something on my iPhone. And some content goes there directly already (emails, RSS feeds and data for a lot of special apps, such as Amazon, eBay, train / movie / public transportation schedule). Look, if you don't want to do local syncing then the Apple stuff isn't for you - fair enough. Just don't claim that people who like it are from "yester-decade". > > So unless Google has all my content in the cloud, can really sync it, > > my price plan has not volume limits and the Google phone is an order > > of magnitude faster with downloads (4G, probably), I'll stick with PC > > syncing. > > Well LTE will come soon enough, meanwhile HSPA is being throttled up > to 84Mbps here in Scandinavia (although to take advantage of that, you > are going to need a dongle since no phone supports this yet). Mobile data speeds - the one place where vendors lie more than with Wifi speeds or printer speed. I'm in the middle of Berlin, Germany, where Vodafone's 3G network has had 7.2 MB/s download speed for a while (some even say 14.4). I can see the mobile base station from my house, it's about 200 meters away on a rooftop. Still, I only get somewhere between 1,6 - 1,9 MB/s download speed because in a mobile network, bandwidth is shared, and latency is horrible. On my 16 MBit/ s DSL line I actually do get close to that speed for big downloads because bandwidth is not shared. You can use iTunes on your iPhone to download any content over a cellular network, but you must use Wifi for anything larger than 10 MB. Why? Nobody knows for sure but I guess it's the mobile operators who were fearing for their networks. My point: It'll be many years out until I can download a 600 MB iTunes U episode to a mobile device over the air in the same 5-10 minutes it takes on my DSL line (which hopefully soon will be a 50MBit/s VDSL), and more years out before you can download, say, a full 1080p HD movie (not the 720p ones that you get from Netflix, Apple and Amazon) at 10 GB to a, say, Apple Tablet over the air. > But I > respect you see things differently than I, something tells me you > can't avoid the cloud though and it will gain greater importance to > Apple too. I already use the cloud happily for many things (sometimes email, RSS, Google Docs, Google Sites), but for big content, it'll be many years out (see previous paragraph). > /Casper -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
