In principle, I agree that taking a design -> code approach is going
to work in an agile environment far less conveniently than a code ->
design approach. Beyond that I can't say. I haven't used your tool.
Personally I do prefer to document as/after the fact, not up-front.
Christian.
On May 11, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Vineet wrote:
Christian,
Glad you like it.
Good point about sales. I am really not worrying too much about that
right now. I just want to make sure that people find it useful.
As for the different take: we are taking a reverse-engineering based
approach as opposed to the more popular design based approaches. Are
there other tools that do reverse-engineering: yes, but they are
typically very limited in their capabilities - so much so that teams
have a hard time using them when they try to follow an agile
development approach. Do you agree?
Vineet
On May 11, 1:29 pm, Christian Edward Gruber
<[email protected]> wrote:
So - nothing against your offering, which seems pretty nice... but
it's not a "different take". Generating diagrams from code, reverse/
forward engineering such diagrams, and round-trip stuff has been
around since the mid-to-late 90's, and some of it was in decent form
at the time, as well.
If you can make it more usable, then kudos... but it's not really
innovative in any respect that I saw. I wouldn't try to sell it that
way - a lot of people with experience with those systems are now
decision makers and will consider you to not have done your research
if you present this sort of thing as new.
Christian.
On May 11, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Vineet wrote:
Wasn't Together Control Center acquired by Borland, and what is not
part of their core? I talked to some ex-Borland folk, and my
understanding is that what got them popular was this reverse
engineering engineering support to something useful that they had
added.
Regardless, here is perhaps the question: What in particular do you
like about the video? And, do you use any UML tools? If not, does
this
meet your needs? What can we do to help you with the tool?
Thanks!
Vineet
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On May 11, 12:34 pm, Robert Casto <[email protected]> wrote:
Take a look at Together Control Center. They had the code to UML
view
working in both directions. It doesn't have all the nice GUI stuff
your tool
appears to have, but they did this some time ago and ended up
selling it and
closing the company because they couldn't compete with Rational.
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Vineet <[email protected]>
wrote:
I have been extremely frustrated with UML tooling in the past, and
for
the last 2+ years have been involved in a project for building
something very cool. See a video here:
http://blog.architexa.com/2010/05/different-take-on-uml-a-sneak-preview/
Most UML Tools focus on creating diagrams before coding, but we
believe in having diagrams made from code. Where other tools
require
months of work to get something useful, we want to get you useful
results in minutes if not seconds. Some tools require reading lots
of
documentation to use, but we have wanted a tool that you can get
up to
speed in 5 minutes.
What do you think of it? As we are rolling this out, I would
really
like to hear your thoughts on what we should focus on to help you
with
your work.
Regards,
Vineet
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