Hey Matthew We were in beta for the last six months and in the exit phase currently. We are slowly letting people in for our trial to provide better support. Please sign up here if you are interested. http://www.architexa.com/
Thanks On May 11, 11:30 pm, Matthew Kerle <[email protected]> wrote: > do you have a beta available for trial? > > On 12 May 2010 11:05, Vineet <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Exactly, UML tools need to be more useful when you already have code. > > I find it a pity that not many people are talking about their needs > > for better tools, and as a result we do not get the benefit of having > > tools meet these needs. > > > Christian, I know you haven't used our tool - but if you are > > interested in talking about what we are building meets/doesn't meet > > your needs publicly (here, your blog, etc) I can sponsor a license for > > you. > > > Robert, or anyone else, if you want to help raise the level of > > discussion on such tools, drop me an e-mail: vineet at architexa dot > > com > > > Vineet > > > On May 11, 3:00 pm, Robert Casto <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The think I like most about tools like this is the ability to visualize > > what > > > is already there. I won't use it that often to write code, but for > > > understanding the code base, learning how things are organized, and > > > following an execution path; this is what these kinds of tools are good > > for. > > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Christian Edward Gruber < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > In principle, I agree that taking a design -> code approach is going to > > > > work in an agile environment far less conveniently than a code -> > > design > > > > approach. Beyond that I can't say. I haven't used your tool. > > Personally I > > > > do prefer to document as/after the fact, not up-front. > > > > > Christian. > > > > > On May 11, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Vineet wrote: > > > > > Christian, > > > >> Glad you like it. > > > > >> Good point about sales. I am really not worrying too much about that > > > >> right now. I just want to make sure that people find it useful. > > > > >> As for the different take: we are taking a reverse-engineering based > > > >> approach as opposed to the more popular design based approaches. Are > > > >> there other tools that do reverse-engineering: yes, but they are > > > >> typically very limited in their capabilities - so much so that teams > > > >> have a hard time using them when they try to follow an agile > > > >> development approach. Do you agree? > > > > >> Vineet > > > > >> On May 11, 1:29 pm, Christian Edward Gruber > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>> So - nothing against your offering, which seems pretty nice... but > > > >>> it's not a "different take". Generating diagrams from code, reverse/ > > > >>> forward engineering such diagrams, and round-trip stuff has been > > > >>> around since the mid-to-late 90's, and some of it was in decent form > > > >>> at the time, as well. > > > > >>> If you can make it more usable, then kudos... but it's not really > > > >>> innovative in any respect that I saw. I wouldn't try to sell it that > > > >>> way - a lot of people with experience with those systems are now > > > >>> decision makers and will consider you to not have done your research > > > >>> if you present this sort of thing as new. > > > > >>> Christian. > > > > >>> On May 11, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Vineet wrote: > > > > >>> Wasn't Together Control Center acquired by Borland, and what is not > > > >>>> part of their core? I talked to some ex-Borland folk, and my > > > >>>> understanding is that what got them popular was this reverse > > > >>>> engineering engineering support to something useful that they had > > > >>>> added. > > > > >>> Regardless, here is perhaps the question: What in particular do you > > > >>>> like about the video? And, do you use any UML tools? If not, does > > this > > > >>>> meet your needs? What can we do to help you with the tool? > > > > >>> Thanks! > > > > >>> Vineet > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> Founder, Architexa > > > >>>> [email protected] :: 617.818.0548 > > > >>>>www.architexa.com-KnowYour Code > > > > >>> On May 11, 12:34 pm, Robert Casto <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>>> Take a look at Together Control Center. They had the code to UML > > view > > > >>>>> working in both directions. It doesn't have all the nice GUI stuff > > > >>>>> your tool > > > >>>>> appears to have, but they did this some time ago and ended up > > > >>>>> selling it and > > > >>>>> closing the company because they couldn't compete with Rational. > > > > >>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Vineet <[email protected]> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>> I have been extremely frustrated with UML tooling in the past, and > > > >>>>>> for > > > >>>>>> the last 2+ years have been involved in a project for building > > > >>>>>> something very cool. See a video here: > > >http://blog.architexa.com/2010/05/different-take-on-uml-a-sneak-preview/ > > > > >>> Most UML Tools focus on creating diagrams before coding, but we > > > >>>>>> believe in having diagrams made from code. Where other tools > > require > > > >>>>>> months of work to get something useful, we want to get you useful > > > >>>>>> results in minutes if not seconds. Some tools require reading lots > > > >>>>>> of > > > >>>>>> documentation to use, but we have wanted a tool that you can get > > > >>>>>> up to > > > >>>>>> speed in 5 minutes. > > > > >>> What do you think of it? As we are rolling this out, I would really > > > >>>>>> like to hear your thoughts on what we should focus on to help you > > > >>>>>> with > > > >>>>>> your work. > > > > >>> Regards, > > > >>>>>> Vineet > > > > >>> -- > > > >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > >>>>>> Groups > > > >>>>>> "The Java Posse" group. > > > >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > >>>>>> [email protected]<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > > > >>>>>> .com> > > <javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups .com> > > > >>>>>> <javaposse > > > >>>>>> %2bunsubscr...@googlegroups .com> > > > >>>>>> . > > > >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at > > > >>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > > >>> -- > > > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > >>>> Groups "The Java Posse" group. > > > >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > >>>> [email protected]<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > > > >>>> .com> > > <javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups .com> > > > >>>> . > > > >>>> For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > > >>>> groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en > > > >>>> . > > > > >>> -- > > > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > > > >>> "The Java Posse" group. > > > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > >>> [email protected]<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > > > >>> .com> > > <javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups .com> > > > >>> . > > > >>> For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > > >>> groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > > >> -- > > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > > > >> "The Java Posse" group. > > > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > >> [email protected]<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > > > >> .com> > > <javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups .com> > > > >> . > > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > > >>http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > > > > "The Java Posse" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > [email protected]<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > > > > .com> > > <javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups .com> > > > > . > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > Robert Castowww.IWantFreeShipping.com > > > Find Amazon Filler Items easily! > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "The Java Posse" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > > .com> > > . > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "The Java Posse" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > > .com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- > "life is complex, it has both real and imaginary > components"http://threebrightlights.blogspot.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. 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