On 11/09/2010 08:12 PM, Kirk wrote:
Well, from my perspective, ASF is making a mistake.
I don't have the experience and insight of Kirk, but in my small corner
(the NetBeans community) I can say that the communications, which
weren't exceptional four years ago, constantly improved ilife n the last
part of Sun and Oracle didn't step backward (with the exception of some
general policies). I think that there is some good will and it's still
worth while talking.
Clearly, Apache has got many reasons to be angry, with Sun first and now
with Oracle. From the community point of view, the lack of an alternate,
ASF-based implementation such as Harmony is a missed opportunity. Given
that, I think it's also clear that Harmony wasn't really driven by the
community, as people started the RIP mourning five minutes after IBM
withdrew; so in the end IBM was relevant. I've said many times, that I
don't think it's feasible a complete JVM totally maintained by the
community and the Harmony presumed ending sort of demonstrated it (yes,
I know, the ASF said they will still work on it, but I'm very skeptical;
let's have a recap point six months from here).
Sure, Oracle probably played some Machavelli politics with the latest
JCP elections, but the system on the whole worked as the alleged puppet
candidate was not elected; furthermore, Apache received 95% of votes and
I'd see it as a sort of betrayal if they quit.
Given that, I'm not against wars in principle. It depends on the
strength of your weapons and army. Frankly I don't see our advantage in
declaring war to Oracle, and just minor troubles for them. It would be a
pity.
Look to Devoxx in a few days where Mark Rienhold will be speaking on a panel
about the future of Java. Stephan has put a few interesting characters on that
panel so I expect it will be fun as well as informative.
Too bad I won't be there... :-( Looking forward to read some blogs.
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