On 11/10/2010 12:52 PM, geir wrote: [snip]
Ok, so coming to present times, how do ASF think to change things now, given that ASF (unfortunately) didn't succeed with Sun, at a time when two large corporates (Oracle and IBM) backed that position, and now they don't any longer? I think that, unfortunately, that battle has been lost. There are two concepts: Java as an open standard, and Java as an open platform, substantially restricted to OpenJDK. As you can see, I agree with you, Java is not an open standard: we're left with the OpenJDK. As you said, the only alternative, .Net, is not better. So, let's keep Java as good as it can be. I think that news and opinion circulate very well in the community and the concept that Oracle is taking as much as power as it can in the JCP is clear to most of us. Given that, they don't have 100% complete control. Leaving the JCP would give them more (of course, there are still Google and others, but if anybody reasoned as Apache and withdrew from the JCP, we'd be delivering total control to Oracle).
Given that, I understand that withdrawing from the JCP could be a coherent move, if not the best one in my perspective. But voting against Java 7? What would be the meaning of that? I prefer to have Java 7, though not an open standard, in time rather than delayed in the hope to achieve what can't be probably achieved any longer.
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