Hi Josh

Thanks for doing the detective work on what will be probably another
web presentation.

When both you and D.J are in London, I will be buying you both pints
of beers.

On Mar 30, 9:58 pm, Oscar Hsieh <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just out of my own curiosity, a quick check on wikipedia
>
> Groovy - "James Strachan first talked about the development of Groovy in his
> blog <http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/2003/08/29.html> in August 2003.
> Several versions were released between 2004 and 2006. "
>
> Scala - "The design of Scala started in 2001 ...... Odersky had previously
> worked on Generic
> Java<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_Java_%28programming_language%29>and
> javac <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javac>, Sun's Java
> compiler.[3]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scala_%28programming_language%29#cite_no...>Scala
> was released late 2003 / early 2004 on the Java platform, and on the
> .NET platform in June
> 2004.[2]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scala_%28programming_language%29#cite_no...>
> [3]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scala_%28programming_language%29#cite_no...>
> [4]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scala_%28programming_language%29#cite_no...>A
> second version of the language, v2.0, was released in March 2006.
> [2]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scala_%28programming_language%29#cite_no...>
> "
>
> Again, I dont think date matters, but Cedric is right on this one.
>
> 2011/3/30 Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]>
>
>
>
> > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Josh Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> 2011/3/30 Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]>:
> >> > My point was to show that you are completely wrong when you claim:
> >> > "Groovy was the first of the non-Java JVM languages, so it has a
> >> head-start
> >> > some degree of commercial support (not least, via Spring), so it's
> >> > unsurprising that it currently has higher adoption."
> >> > Scala came out before Groovy. Way before. Therefore, according to
> >> you, Scala
> >> > should have a much higher adoption than Groovy.
>
> >> Uh, a very quick wikipedia/google search will show that the number you
> >> cite for groovy is horribly misleading.
>
> > Which number, "Groovy 1.0 was released on January 2, 2007."?
>
> > --
> > Cédric
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