Oracle deserved this and many inside are frustrated because they know that Oracle screwed up and they know why Oracle screwed up and if it were to happen once again tomorrow, Oracle would screw it up the same way because the screw up is institutionalized. People in Oracle are working to fix things and they are making headway but they've still got a long way to go.
In other discussions I got the idea that Oracle is used to finding homes for FOSS things in foundations. Apache is clearly out and Jenkins is a project, not a foundation. That pretty much leaves the EF.. and the EF is structured in a way that Oracle understands so if it makes sense or not for Hudson to be there.. another question.. it's a place that Oracle knows how to deal with and they like that. Easy, nothing to learn, no risk which means no one gets fired.. very safe!!! Kirk On May 10, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Fabrizio Giudici wrote: > On 05/10/2011 12:40 PM, Russel Winder wrote: >> >> I think: >> >> "Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by >> incompetence." >> >> may be appropriate in this situation. >> > Probably. Still, it sounds odd to me that Oracle gets bashed whatever they > do. There was the split Hudson / Jeskins -> blame Oracle because it can't > properly deal with the community. Then Oracle announces (ok, only announces, > let's see) a cooperation with one of the outstanding communities out there, > and still blame Oracle? I mean, it's true that Oracle is probably > "incompetent" with respect to the relation with the community, but couldn't > that step be one in the good direction? Shouldn't we encourage this as a way > to gain some "competence" in the relation with the community? > > -- > Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager > Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." > java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people > [email protected] > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
