Andrew Hyatt writes:
 > 
 > Althought we're getting off the topics of installers, I say I agree,
 > but that doesn't mean GUI's.  If emacs people like GUI's they wouldn't
 > be emacs people.  But we need better UI for jde in general.  For
 > example, what's with the C-c C-v keybindings?  This is only one key

What would you suggest? The JDEE cannot just arbitrarily step 
in and assign key bindings. Most of the simple key bindings have
long since been assigned to core Emacs functionaliy. Give me
a break. I chose C-c as the first prefix because it is the prefix
especially reserved for noncore packages. I chose C-v because it
is right next to C-c on most keyboards on the same row and to
the right which is comfortable for me. If you can find a
better, more convenient subspace of the Emacs key binding space
that does not already conflict with core features, suggest
it and I'll reassign the JDEE commands to them. 

Further, please note that I went to the trouble of providing a
customizable key binding buffer, which means that you can
rebind keys without knowing anything more than how to edit
a custom buffer. I knew right from the start that the default
key bindings would be unacceptable to many users. That's why
I made it so easy to rebind the keys to simpler combinations
that are already assigned to other commands but that you feel
you can live without. > off from the C-x C-c binding which exits emacs.  

 > Not good.  And in the
 > debugger, is there anyone who has not rebound jde-bug-step-over?  No
 > way anyone is typing C-c C-z n just to go to the next line!

I've rebound the most  frequently used jdb and JDEbug debug commands 
to function  keys.

 
 >  When
 > debugging, things should work like in edebug - editing is disabled,
 > "n" for next, "c" for continue, "e" for eval.  This would help a lot.
 > 

This is a good idea that has occurred to me. The problem is getting
the time to implement it. For me, it was so easy to rebind the step
and breakpoint commands to function keys as on the GUI debuggers
to which I am accustomed that I never felt the incentive to 
provide this functionality, given the other demands on my time
and the higher priority which users seem to have for other features,
such as completion.

- Paul

 > 
 > 
 > "Daniel Hegyi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 > 
 > > > > I think that a user-friendly install-shield-like GUI wizard for
 > > > the Windows
 > > > > folks would be very nice. You know, with check-boxes and "Next"
 > > > buttons. :)
 > > >Heh, feel free to create such one. I am the one who hates GUI wizards.
 > > >If I would love them you can be sure I would prefer to use JBuilder like
 > > >whole company where I work, instead of emacs+JDEE.
 > > 
 > > My personal opinion is that Emacs should become a little more
 > > user-friendly, otherwise IDEs like JBuilder and WebSphere Studio
 > > Enterprise Developer WILL take over, and Emacs will become a notepad
 > > on steroids. I don't know about you, but I have a tough time
 > > remembering just a few function names, not to mention the several
 > > hundred that JDEE/Emacs offer. GUI isn't such a bad thing. Let's face
 > > it, we're living in the 21st Century.
 > > 
 > > Daniel
 > > 
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