Personally, I'd love to downplay the realtime chat and make the mailing lists a bit more useful. Maybe something like discourse (self hosted, or https://free.discourse.group/) setup, where we can have threads that are easily searchable. Its totally able to be managed by email for those who prefer email, and threaded for those that don't.
I can't remember the last time I did a google search and the jenkins mailing list came up. But yea, a longer discussion is probably needed. On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 6:04 PM Marky Jackson <[email protected]> wrote: > Replying to both Gavin and William, > I think your both points are fair and I completely accept it. I do think > gitter is limiting but I am in favor of openness over limiting any day. > Thank you both for your insight and this is what the community needs more > of. Open discussion and understanding of all view points. > Thank you both again and happy holidays > > On Dec 26, 2019, at 5:53 PM, William Hetherington <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Echo much of what Gavin said. Chat is a tough problem to solve, you don’t > reach critical mass if there is a cost, and there are just so many. > > Keybase.io and a private Jenkins team might be a good option? > > It’s e2e encrypted, X-platform clients, allows for public entry rooms in > what is otherwise a private “team” > > https://keybase.io/willwh is my user if you want to follow or chat. > > The other nice thing is keybase is well integrated to github too :) > > Thanks, > > Will > > On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 17:41 'Gavin Mogan' via Jenkins Developers < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I would be very much against yet another slack i'd have to join. >> Especially cause its a closed system, requiring invites to join. Its >> certainly why i havn't bothered looking into the jenkins-ux sig. >> >> Gitter is nice because everything is public and googleable, you only need >> a github account, which is the minimum you'd need to contribute to any of >> the jenkins systems anyways. Though gitter is pretty abandoned, and I would >> prefer IRC, especially with a public logging bot. >> >> Gavin >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 5:27 PM Marky Jackson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> The holidays are upon us and it’s time to relax and look back on the >>> year and at the roadmap for the future. >>> With [gitter being down]( >>> https://twitter.com/gitchat/status/1210326466870882306?s=21) I think >>> the conversation should be had regarding moving off the archaic >>> (gitter/irc) communications used for the community and into a more robust >>> form of unified community bonding. >>> I would love to see the recently nominated board move to standardize, >>> not only our crumbling infrastructure but also the means by which we >>> communicate. >>> With the CDF integration in the works I would also love to hear more >>> about how that looks. More so how this community adapts to that new world >>> (and their use of slack as a communication medium). >>> We had a lot of emails about the integration and board nominations >>> (along with officers), I personally am eager to hear more about the plans >>> and the way to make rubber meet the road from all newly elected officials >>> and returning ones. >>> Happy New Years all and thank you to all the contributors for all the >>> hard work you put in to this project, I for one am immensely thankful. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/139A5221-5B88-4B8E-A96A-39D399587D0F%40gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/139A5221-5B88-4B8E-A96A-39D399587D0F%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Jenkins Developers" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAG%3D_DutWqTvR%3DAYwGcHUW10fGNj-OjV4NX06Kcj9%2BZP4PY%2BMFA%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAG%3D_DutWqTvR%3DAYwGcHUW10fGNj-OjV4NX06Kcj9%2BZP4PY%2BMFA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > William Hetherington > w - opschops.ca > t - @wmwh > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CALJU9pcNf0LsP7k1MSyOK6_7_wzis%3D4UCviKhRQ0jjK%2BXtQCVw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CALJU9pcNf0LsP7k1MSyOK6_7_wzis%3D4UCviKhRQ0jjK%2BXtQCVw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/E8781E68-9F38-42BD-A6FC-6F7EE7EF56BC%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/E8781E68-9F38-42BD-A6FC-6F7EE7EF56BC%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. 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