I said Hugo but meant Discourse

> On Dec 26, 2019, at 6:39 PM, Marky Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> I like using chat bots with Hugo but found it even easier with slack and 
> kubernetes integration but I think that might be over the top.
> I do like this conversation though and think it would be worth a survey of 
> sort but that is up to the board and sig leads to try and drive adoption.
> I think the advocacy team can help drive this and other topics but the leads 
> of sig’s and the board have the ultimate representation and that was more the 
> logic for my original email, to help the larger community discussion take 
> place in the open.
> 
>>> On Dec 26, 2019, at 6:35 PM, William Hetherington <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Interesting, I run discourse for a personal project but didn’t think about 
>> it for this.... that is definitely another option!
>> 
>> I wrote a plugin for it to do websockety type comms from a chat box, but I 
>> haven’t looked at it in ages, it is probably not functional atm.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 18:12 Marky Jackson <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> I am a +1 on discourse. Widely used in another oss project and a great 
>>> medium.
>>> The mailing list is good but lacks the direct ‘fast’ style communications a 
>>> project of this size needs. I still use it but it is not part of muscle 
>>> memory.
>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 26, 2019, at 6:10 PM, 'Gavin Mogan' via Jenkins Developers 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Personally, I'd love to downplay the realtime chat and make the mailing 
>>>> lists a bit more useful. Maybe something like discourse (self hosted, or 
>>>> https://free.discourse.group/) setup, where we can have threads that are 
>>>> easily searchable. Its totally able to be managed by email for those who 
>>>> prefer email, and threaded for those that don't. 
>>>> 
>>>> I can't remember the last time I did a google search and the jenkins 
>>>> mailing list came up.
>>>> 
>>>> But yea, a longer discussion is probably needed.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 6:04 PM Marky Jackson <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Replying to both Gavin and William,
>>>>> I think your both points are fair and I completely accept it. I do think 
>>>>> gitter is limiting but I am in favor of openness over limiting any day.
>>>>> Thank you both for your insight and this is what the community needs more 
>>>>> of. Open discussion and understanding of all view points.
>>>>> Thank you both again and happy holidays 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 26, 2019, at 5:53 PM, William Hetherington <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Echo much of what Gavin said. Chat is a tough problem to solve, you 
>>>>>> don’t reach critical mass if there is a cost, and there are just so many.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Keybase.io and a private Jenkins team might be a good option?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It’s e2e encrypted, X-platform clients, allows for public entry rooms in 
>>>>>> what is otherwise a private “team”
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://keybase.io/willwh is my user if you want to follow or chat.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The other nice thing is keybase is well integrated to github too :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Will
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 17:41 'Gavin Mogan' via Jenkins Developers 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> I would be very much against yet another slack i'd have to join. 
>>>>>>> Especially cause its a closed system, requiring invites to join. Its 
>>>>>>> certainly why i havn't bothered looking into the jenkins-ux sig.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gitter is nice because everything is public and googleable, you only 
>>>>>>> need a github account, which is the minimum you'd need to contribute to 
>>>>>>> any of the jenkins systems anyways. Though gitter is pretty abandoned, 
>>>>>>> and I would prefer IRC, especially with a public logging bot.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gavin
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 5:27 PM Marky Jackson 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> The holidays are upon us and it’s time to relax and look back on the 
>>>>>>>> year and at the roadmap for the future.
>>>>>>>> With [gitter being 
>>>>>>>> down](https://twitter.com/gitchat/status/1210326466870882306?s=21) I 
>>>>>>>> think the conversation should be had regarding moving off the archaic 
>>>>>>>> (gitter/irc) communications used for the community and into a more 
>>>>>>>> robust form of unified community bonding. 
>>>>>>>> I would love to see the recently nominated board move to standardize, 
>>>>>>>> not only our crumbling infrastructure but also the means by which we 
>>>>>>>> communicate.
>>>>>>>> With the CDF integration in the works I would also love to hear more 
>>>>>>>> about how that looks. More so how this community adapts to that new 
>>>>>>>> world (and their use of slack as a communication medium).
>>>>>>>> We had a lot of emails about the integration and board nominations 
>>>>>>>> (along with officers), I personally am eager to hear more about the 
>>>>>>>> plans and the way to make rubber meet the road from all newly elected 
>>>>>>>> officials and returning ones.
>>>>>>>> Happy New Years all and thank you to all the contributors for all the 
>>>>>>>> hard work you put in to this project, I for one am immensely thankful. 
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