A nice production Jetspeed site is http://www.zurban.com/ (online Paris city
entertainment guide, there's also a paper edition a la TimeOut).

Haresh Gujarathi wrote:

> Hi Todd,
> 
> Its a assuring sign that people like you are devoted to the open source
> momentum.
> 
> But I will say u are not getting my point.
> 
> This discussion is not to criticize the Jetspeed development. But is to find
> out if
> a. the Jetspeed can really be used in the production environment
> b. it has sufficient basic features to be spent time and effort by companies
> like mine to deploy business sites for clients.
> 
> Look we do not have time and resources to do experiment ourselves and later
> figure out that the product is too immature.
> That is why I sent out the mail to ask people if they have deployed some
> sensible sites on net.
> 
> I do not understand what portal you are running... When I checked back your
> another posting,
> I suppose you must be referring to http://portal.wisernet.com and
> http://portal.wiserlabz.com
> I do not see why these sites are great; I just do not see any content. I do
> not see any channels into it. They are totally useless as example to assure
> community that there are some meaningful sites using Jetspeed.
> 
> Except for http://qld.ieaust.org.au/jetspeed I have not seen any meaningful
> deployment of jetspeed.
> That is why I have doubts about its readiness for the business "as of
> today". I am sure it will be ready tomorrow.
> 
> I hope my reading to be wrong. Because if Jetspeed can be meaningfully used
> today, I would like to use it for my clients web sites. So please correct me
> if anybody things that way.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Haresh
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: todd tredeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:55 AM
> To: Jetspeed Users List
> Subject: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready
> 
> 
> I guess you guys miss the point... I think discussion is great, as long
> as the purpose if for moving the product forward, adding needed input...
> There is lots of great software out there. There are lots of great
> programmers  from many countries with different perspectives.
> 
> 1. You can suggest what you need (and can't write)
> 2. You can suggest / show what other people are doing and have done.
> 3. You can contribute, to improve the product, make suggestions, etc.
> 
> Jetspeed, is in reality truly what is great about the #1 Web Server in
> the business, the combined minds of thousands (sometimes just dozens or
> fewer) very hard working dedicated people. Open Source Software works...
> 
> Sometimes our thoughts are poor, disorganized (mine are) but here is
> what I see (as a non programmer) that I MUST have for a 100% go... Keep
> in mind, Jetspeed is a great idea, and it is a "work in progress", not a
> debate..
> 
> I would like to see the following aspects addressed in Jetspeed, and am
> willing to spend the time with willing programmers to get there.. are you?
> 
>     Configuration Routine (usually you have to write this last) as the
> program changes to much and
>     too fast... along these lines I have great ideas..
> 
>     Adding Content "portlets" at will...including;
>             date content starts
>             date content stops
>             content creation (There are a number of nice xml publishing
> packages out there, either write one or make a jetspeed modified version
> of one) End Users can't do it.
> 
>     Calander, ya that would be cool, but.... how about somethiing really
> cool, voting, yes, but again, I would like to take it a few steps
> further.. who is up to the challenge?
> 
>     To demonstrate my committment to this project I run 2 portals 24 x
> 7, and work very hard to promote "good" software of all types.
> 
> Lets have fun
> 
> todd
> waiting to work with programmers
> 
> Frans Thamura wrote:
> 
> 
>>No, i think i will use jetspeed in seriously, but, sad man, all the source
>>is not documented well, and a lot of big question and little bit crowded..
>>
>>There is a software eBdesk.com create by someone in my country, it is
>>popular enough.. here...but they approach for corporate portal..
>>
>>my solution is for executive information system..
>>
>>sorry, i will prepare to put my sample work in the net, but still get a lot
>>of BIG QUESTION...
>>
>>so, if you want to try implement Jetspeed, prepare for the hurt oke..
>>
>>Frans
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:31 PM
>>Subject: RE: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi Frans,
>>>
>>>1. Can I see on net some of your sites using jetspeed?
>>>2. Now that you are aware of the issues in implementing a portal for
>>>companies, have you found any other alternative?
>>>(cheaper preferrably) ?
>>>
>>>-- haresh
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Frans Thamura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:44 PM
>>>To: Jetspeed Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi haresh,
>>>
>>>
>>>>1. How is Jetspeed for deploying a serious business site (if not mission
>>>>critical one ?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I think for basic personalization is oke, but for multi tab or folder, i
>>>think you will got the difficulty, esp for desigining the complex
>>>portlet/psml
>>>
>>>i try to implement this in several company, yah we got a performance
>>>problem, slow...
>>>
>>>I create a business intelligence system based on Jetspeed, called cockpit
>>>system , it is a balance scorecard system..
>>>
>>>
>>>>2. Are there any sites built using Jetspeed ? (other than the ones
>>>>
>>>>
>>>specified
>>>
>>>
>>>>on the Jetspeed home page)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>see in the reference of jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed
>>>
>>>
>>>>3. Has anyone implemented
>>>>
>>>>chat, discussion forums, polls, as portlets? (etc required to build a
>>>>portal...)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I try poll, but forum, get difficulty to implement this.. integration
>>>
>>>
>>single
>>
>>
>>>login problem
>>>
>>>
>>>>4. How to provide roll based access to the sub sections of the Jetspeed
>>>>sites?
>>>>For example, If I want to assign 4 different administrators to 4
>>>>
>>>>
>>different
>>
>>
>>>>sections of a community portal (children, young_minds, adults, senior
>>>>citizens), so that those 4 people are responsible for managing the
>>>>
>>>>
>>content
>>
>>
>>>>published in the corresponding sections.
>>>>
>>>>Basically this is a content management system facility... which I think
>>>>
>>>>
>>>can
>>>
>>>
>>>>be an integral part of the Portal system
>>>>
>>>>Is anybody working on such (Admin) portlet?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>yah you can try it with admin/jetspeed user
>>>
>>>but, there is a role tag in xreg. if you implement it you will see the
>>>
>>>
>>role
>>
>>
>>>based portlet.
>>>
>>>i create several roles in my jetspeed environment, this is a business
>>>intelligence system, and work well.. even you must find a trick to
>>>
>>>
>>implement
>>
>>
>>>this..
>>>
>>>
>>>have a nice try..
>>>
>>>Frans
>>>
>>>
>>>>regards
>>>>
>>>>Haresh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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