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I like that.. i like you...(haha valentine day)..gift from me to Jetspeed...love argument... (OO) Cheers.. Frans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 4:07 PM Subject: RE: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready > Hi Todd, > > No. I think we should fight. :) Look the kind of replies my mail has > generated. It is making people to talk and contribute information and site > addresses. > > Fighting is good for Jetspeed :) > > Anyway I will again take a look at ur sites and reevaluate them. > > Yes, biggest problem I am facing is configuration, documentation. > > Let's see the sites being submitted by people. > One request to all; > PLEASE ALSO SUBMIT YOUR SITES to the Jetspeed central. so the owners of the > project can maintain a consolidated list of working and demoable jetspeed > websites. > > regards > haresh > > > -----Original Message----- > From: todd tredeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 4:17 AM > To: Jetspeed Users List > Subject: Re: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready > > > Hello Haresh.. > I'm sorry if I missed your point. I agree little has been > done on the customizing of jetspeed. I have several priorities.. and > there is only one of me. In fact, the 2 portals are different, > configuration wise, and addtitionally, content feeds are added to the > wiserlabz portal. I wanted to add much more, but I had questions... > Without a fancy configuration program, it is difficult to customize much > of this. As I said, it is a work in progress, but it is great.. I like > it.. I have two portals running on the same server, and have no > problems.. wisernet portal gets a lot of traffic, as well as other > things running there, and performance is good.. Now, when I say > performance is good, that is a pretty general term... For intance today, > I tested www.link-tool.com 's feed mechanism, which runs on > jsp/tomcat/apache and ran sustained traffic (calculated to be equal to > 1000 per minute). In any event I am busy but read this mail. Not Highly > customized, as I said, tools still need to be written in my opinion, but > a great product, and folks.. While not "production" end user wise, it's > production, dealing with any and all traffic that hits it (jetspeed) and > hopefully performing decently.. which is what I thought your original > question was. You can basically run the numbers and build machine(s) to > handle most any load. Also, the question was posed some time ago about > multiple machines, there are several ways you can load balance jetspeed. > > more later... greetings and i'm not fighting with you, just chatting.. > > todd > > > > Haresh Gujarathi wrote: > > >Hi Todd, > > > >Its a assuring sign that people like you are devoted to the open source > >momentum. > > > >But I will say u are not getting my point. > > > >This discussion is not to criticize the Jetspeed development. But is to > find > >out if > >a. the Jetspeed can really be used in the production environment > >b. it has sufficient basic features to be spent time and effort by > companies > >like mine to deploy business sites for clients. > > > >Look we do not have time and resources to do experiment ourselves and later > >figure out that the product is too immature. > >That is why I sent out the mail to ask people if they have deployed some > >sensible sites on net. > > > >I do not understand what portal you are running... When I checked back your > >another posting, > >I suppose you must be referring to http://portal.wisernet.com and > >http://portal.wiserlabz.com > >I do not see why these sites are great; I just do not see any content. I do > >not see any channels into it. They are totally useless as example to assure > >community that there are some meaningful sites using Jetspeed. > > > >Except for http://qld.ieaust.org.au/jetspeed I have not seen any meaningful > >deployment of jetspeed. > >That is why I have doubts about its readiness for the business "as of > >today". I am sure it will be ready tomorrow. > > > >I hope my reading to be wrong. Because if Jetspeed can be meaningfully used > >today, I would like to use it for my clients web sites. So please correct > me > >if anybody things that way. > > > >regards, > > > >Haresh > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: todd tredeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:55 AM > >To: Jetspeed Users List > >Subject: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready > > > > > >I guess you guys miss the point... I think discussion is great, as long > >as the purpose if for moving the product forward, adding needed input... > >There is lots of great software out there. There are lots of great > >programmers from many countries with different perspectives. > > > >1. You can suggest what you need (and can't write) > >2. You can suggest / show what other people are doing and have done. > >3. You can contribute, to improve the product, make suggestions, etc. > > > >Jetspeed, is in reality truly what is great about the #1 Web Server in > >the business, the combined minds of thousands (sometimes just dozens or > >fewer) very hard working dedicated people. Open Source Software works... > > > >Sometimes our thoughts are poor, disorganized (mine are) but here is > >what I see (as a non programmer) that I MUST have for a 100% go... Keep > >in mind, Jetspeed is a great idea, and it is a "work in progress", not a > >debate.. > > > >I would like to see the following aspects addressed in Jetspeed, and am > >willing to spend the time with willing programmers to get there.. are you? > > > > Configuration Routine (usually you have to write this last) as the > >program changes to much and > > too fast... along these lines I have great ideas.. > > > > Adding Content "portlets" at will...including; > > date content starts > > date content stops > > content creation (There are a number of nice xml publishing > >packages out there, either write one or make a jetspeed modified version > >of one) End Users can't do it. > > > > Calander, ya that would be cool, but.... how about somethiing really > >cool, voting, yes, but again, I would like to take it a few steps > >further.. who is up to the challenge? > > > > To demonstrate my committment to this project I run 2 portals 24 x > >7, and work very hard to promote "good" software of all types. > > > >Lets have fun > > > >todd > >waiting to work with programmers > > > >Frans Thamura wrote: > > > >>No, i think i will use jetspeed in seriously, but, sad man, all the source > >>is not documented well, and a lot of big question and little bit crowded.. > >> > >>There is a software eBdesk.com create by someone in my country, it is > >>popular enough.. here...but they approach for corporate portal.. > >> > >>my solution is for executive information system.. > >> > >>sorry, i will prepare to put my sample work in the net, but still get a > lot > >>of BIG QUESTION... > >> > >>so, if you want to try implement Jetspeed, prepare for the hurt oke.. > >> > >>Frans > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:31 PM > >>Subject: RE: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready? > >> > >> > >>>Hi Frans, > >>> > >>>1. Can I see on net some of your sites using jetspeed? > >>>2. Now that you are aware of the issues in implementing a portal for > >>>companies, have you found any other alternative? > >>>(cheaper preferrably) ? > >>> > >>>-- haresh > >>> > >>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Frans Thamura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:44 PM > >>>To: Jetspeed Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Subject: Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready? > >>> > >>> > >>>Hi haresh, > >>> > >>>>1. How is Jetspeed for deploying a serious business site (if not mission > >>>>critical one ?) > >>>> > >>>I think for basic personalization is oke, but for multi tab or folder, i > >>>think you will got the difficulty, esp for desigining the complex > >>>portlet/psml > >>> > >>>i try to implement this in several company, yah we got a performance > >>>problem, slow... > >>> > >>>I create a business intelligence system based on Jetspeed, called cockpit > >>>system , it is a balance scorecard system.. > >>> > >>>>2. Are there any sites built using Jetspeed ? (other than the ones > >>>> > >>>specified > >>> > >>>>on the Jetspeed home page) > >>>> > >>>see in the reference of jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed > >>> > >>>>3. Has anyone implemented > >>>> > >>>>chat, discussion forums, polls, as portlets? (etc required to build a > >>>>portal...) > >>>> > >>>I try poll, but forum, get difficulty to implement this.. integration > >>> > >>single > >> > >>>login problem > >>> > >>>>4. How to provide roll based access to the sub sections of the Jetspeed > >>>>sites? > >>>>For example, If I want to assign 4 different administrators to 4 > >>>> > >>different > >> > >>>>sections of a community portal (children, young_minds, adults, senior > >>>>citizens), so that those 4 people are responsible for managing the > >>>> > >>content > >> > >>>>published in the corresponding sections. > >>>> > >>>>Basically this is a content management system facility... which I think > >>>> > >>>can > >>> > >>>>be an integral part of the Portal system > >>>> > >>>>Is anybody working on such (Admin) portlet? > >>>> > >>>yah you can try it with admin/jetspeed user > >>> > >>>but, there is a role tag in xreg. if you implement it you will see the > >>> > >>role > >> > >>>based portlet. > >>> > >>>i create several roles in my jetspeed environment, this is a business > >>>intelligence system, and work well.. even you must find a trick to > >>> > >>implement > >> > >>>this.. > >>> > >>> > >>>have a nice try.. > >>> > >>>Frans > >>> > >>>>regards > >>>> > >>>>Haresh > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>_________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? > >>>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >>>-- > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >>><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: > >>><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>-- > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >>> > >><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: > >>> > >><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________ > >> > >>Do You Yahoo!? > >> > >>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >> > ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >>For additional commands, e-mail: > >> > ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> > > > > > > > >-- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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