Glad you like it, I was actually a bit embarrased, as it (my customization)
could use some polish.

No real ISP stuff, aside from the integration of Webmail and community
content feeds.  I certainly look forward to the day when I actually have
something that is worth giving back :)  I still have alot of work to do.

>>Brendan
----- Original Message -----
From: "todd tredeau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready


> NICE... REALLY Nice.. what sort of "isp" related jetspeed stuff have you
> done....anything we can use??
>
> todd
>
>
> Brendan O'Bra wrote:
>
> >Ok... I'll jump in from deep lurker mode to "defend" jetspeed, as it has
> >served me well thus far...
> >
> >I use jetspeed on my website (I'm an ISP).  We are 100% open source,
linux,
> >tomcat, jetspeed.
> >
> >http://www.pvbb.net
> >
> >So far, jetspeed has been very flexible and we are happy with it.  I will
> >say that the fact that I am a java developer has made it easy to work
with.
> >
> >>>Brendan
> >>>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:13 AM
> >Subject: RE: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready
> >
> >
> >>Hi Todd,
> >>
> >>Its a assuring sign that people like you are devoted to the open source
> >>momentum.
> >>
> >>But I will say u are not getting my point.
> >>
> >>This discussion is not to criticize the Jetspeed development. But is to
> >>
> >find
> >
> >>out if
> >>a. the Jetspeed can really be used in the production environment
> >>b. it has sufficient basic features to be spent time and effort by
> >>
> >companies
> >
> >>like mine to deploy business sites for clients.
> >>
> >>Look we do not have time and resources to do experiment ourselves and
> >>
> >later
> >
> >>figure out that the product is too immature.
> >>That is why I sent out the mail to ask people if they have deployed some
> >>sensible sites on net.
> >>
> >>I do not understand what portal you are running... When I checked back
> >>
> >your
> >
> >>another posting,
> >>I suppose you must be referring to http://portal.wisernet.com and
> >>http://portal.wiserlabz.com
> >>I do not see why these sites are great; I just do not see any content. I
> >>
> >do
> >
> >>not see any channels into it. They are totally useless as example to
> >>
> >assure
> >
> >>community that there are some meaningful sites using Jetspeed.
> >>
> >>Except for http://qld.ieaust.org.au/jetspeed I have not seen any
> >>
> >meaningful
> >
> >>deployment of jetspeed.
> >>That is why I have doubts about its readiness for the business "as of
> >>today". I am sure it will be ready tomorrow.
> >>
> >>I hope my reading to be wrong. Because if Jetspeed can be meaningfully
> >>
> >used
> >
> >>today, I would like to use it for my clients web sites. So please
correct
> >>
> >me
> >
> >>if anybody things that way.
> >>
> >>regards,
> >>
> >>Haresh
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: todd tredeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:55 AM
> >>To: Jetspeed Users List
> >>Subject: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready
> >>
> >>
> >>I guess you guys miss the point... I think discussion is great, as long
> >>as the purpose if for moving the product forward, adding needed input...
> >>There is lots of great software out there. There are lots of great
> >>programmers  from many countries with different perspectives.
> >>
> >>1. You can suggest what you need (and can't write)
> >>2. You can suggest / show what other people are doing and have done.
> >>3. You can contribute, to improve the product, make suggestions, etc.
> >>
> >>Jetspeed, is in reality truly what is great about the #1 Web Server in
> >>the business, the combined minds of thousands (sometimes just dozens or
> >>fewer) very hard working dedicated people. Open Source Software works...
> >>
> >>Sometimes our thoughts are poor, disorganized (mine are) but here is
> >>what I see (as a non programmer) that I MUST have for a 100% go... Keep
> >>in mind, Jetspeed is a great idea, and it is a "work in progress", not a
> >>debate..
> >>
> >>I would like to see the following aspects addressed in Jetspeed, and am
> >>willing to spend the time with willing programmers to get there.. are
you?
> >>
> >>    Configuration Routine (usually you have to write this last) as the
> >>program changes to much and
> >>    too fast... along these lines I have great ideas..
> >>
> >>    Adding Content "portlets" at will...including;
> >>            date content starts
> >>            date content stops
> >>            content creation (There are a number of nice xml publishing
> >>packages out there, either write one or make a jetspeed modified version
> >>of one) End Users can't do it.
> >>
> >>    Calander, ya that would be cool, but.... how about somethiing really
> >>cool, voting, yes, but again, I would like to take it a few steps
> >>further.. who is up to the challenge?
> >>
> >>    To demonstrate my committment to this project I run 2 portals 24 x
> >>7, and work very hard to promote "good" software of all types.
> >>
> >>Lets have fun
> >>
> >>todd
> >>waiting to work with programmers
> >>
> >>Frans Thamura wrote:
> >>
> >>>No, i think i will use jetspeed in seriously, but, sad man, all the
> >>>
> >source
> >
> >>>is not documented well, and a lot of big question and little bit
> >>>
> >crowded..
> >
> >>>There is a software eBdesk.com create by someone in my country, it is
> >>>popular enough.. here...but they approach for corporate portal..
> >>>
> >>>my solution is for executive information system..
> >>>
> >>>sorry, i will prepare to put my sample work in the net, but still get a
> >>>
> >lot
> >
> >>>of BIG QUESTION...
> >>>
> >>>so, if you want to try implement Jetspeed, prepare for the hurt oke..
> >>>
> >>>Frans
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:31 PM
> >>>Subject: RE: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hi Frans,
> >>>>
> >>>>1. Can I see on net some of your sites using jetspeed?
> >>>>2. Now that you are aware of the issues in implementing a portal for
> >>>>companies, have you found any other alternative?
> >>>>(cheaper preferrably) ?
> >>>>
> >>>>-- haresh
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Frans Thamura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:44 PM
> >>>>To: Jetspeed Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>Subject: Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Hi haresh,
> >>>>
> >>>>>1. How is Jetspeed for deploying a serious business site (if not
> >>>>>
> >mission
> >
> >>>>>critical one ?)
> >>>>>
> >>>>I think for basic personalization is oke, but for multi tab or folder,
i
> >>>>think you will got the difficulty, esp for desigining the complex
> >>>>portlet/psml
> >>>>
> >>>>i try to implement this in several company, yah we got a performance
> >>>>problem, slow...
> >>>>
> >>>>I create a business intelligence system based on Jetspeed, called
> >>>>
> >cockpit
> >
> >>>>system , it is a balance scorecard system..
> >>>>
> >>>>>2. Are there any sites built using Jetspeed ? (other than the ones
> >>>>>
> >>>>specified
> >>>>
> >>>>>on the Jetspeed home page)
> >>>>>
> >>>>see in the reference of jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed
> >>>>
> >>>>>3. Has anyone implemented
> >>>>>
> >>>>>chat, discussion forums, polls, as portlets? (etc required to build a
> >>>>>portal...)
> >>>>>
> >>>>I try poll, but forum, get difficulty to implement this.. integration
> >>>>
> >>>single
> >>>
> >>>>login problem
> >>>>
> >>>>>4. How to provide roll based access to the sub sections of the
Jetspeed
> >>>>>sites?
> >>>>>For example, If I want to assign 4 different administrators to 4
> >>>>>
> >>>different
> >>>
> >>>>>sections of a community portal (children, young_minds, adults, senior
> >>>>>citizens), so that those 4 people are responsible for managing the
> >>>>>
> >>>content
> >>>
> >>>>>published in the corresponding sections.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Basically this is a content management system facility... which I
think
> >>>>>
> >>>>can
> >>>>
> >>>>>be an integral part of the Portal system
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Is anybody working on such (Admin) portlet?
> >>>>>
> >>>>yah you can try it with admin/jetspeed user
> >>>>
> >>>>but, there is a role tag in xreg. if you implement it you will see the
> >>>>
> >>>role
> >>>
> >>>>based portlet.
> >>>>
> >>>>i create several roles in my jetspeed environment, this is a business
> >>>>intelligence system, and work well.. even you must find a trick to
> >>>>
> >>>implement
> >>>
> >>>>this..
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>have a nice try..
> >>>>
> >>>>Frans
> >>>>
> >>>>>regards
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Haresh
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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