NICE... REALLY Nice.. what sort of "isp" related jetspeed stuff have you 
done....anything we can use??

todd


Brendan O'Bra wrote:

>Ok... I'll jump in from deep lurker mode to "defend" jetspeed, as it has
>served me well thus far...
>
>I use jetspeed on my website (I'm an ISP).  We are 100% open source, linux,
>tomcat, jetspeed.
>
>http://www.pvbb.net
>
>So far, jetspeed has been very flexible and we are happy with it.  I will
>say that the fact that I am a java developer has made it easy to work with.
>
>>>Brendan
>>>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:13 AM
>Subject: RE: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready
>
>
>>Hi Todd,
>>
>>Its a assuring sign that people like you are devoted to the open source
>>momentum.
>>
>>But I will say u are not getting my point.
>>
>>This discussion is not to criticize the Jetspeed development. But is to
>>
>find
>
>>out if
>>a. the Jetspeed can really be used in the production environment
>>b. it has sufficient basic features to be spent time and effort by
>>
>companies
>
>>like mine to deploy business sites for clients.
>>
>>Look we do not have time and resources to do experiment ourselves and
>>
>later
>
>>figure out that the product is too immature.
>>That is why I sent out the mail to ask people if they have deployed some
>>sensible sites on net.
>>
>>I do not understand what portal you are running... When I checked back
>>
>your
>
>>another posting,
>>I suppose you must be referring to http://portal.wisernet.com and
>>http://portal.wiserlabz.com
>>I do not see why these sites are great; I just do not see any content. I
>>
>do
>
>>not see any channels into it. They are totally useless as example to
>>
>assure
>
>>community that there are some meaningful sites using Jetspeed.
>>
>>Except for http://qld.ieaust.org.au/jetspeed I have not seen any
>>
>meaningful
>
>>deployment of jetspeed.
>>That is why I have doubts about its readiness for the business "as of
>>today". I am sure it will be ready tomorrow.
>>
>>I hope my reading to be wrong. Because if Jetspeed can be meaningfully
>>
>used
>
>>today, I would like to use it for my clients web sites. So please correct
>>
>me
>
>>if anybody things that way.
>>
>>regards,
>>
>>Haresh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: todd tredeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:55 AM
>>To: Jetspeed Users List
>>Subject: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready
>>
>>
>>I guess you guys miss the point... I think discussion is great, as long
>>as the purpose if for moving the product forward, adding needed input...
>>There is lots of great software out there. There are lots of great
>>programmers  from many countries with different perspectives.
>>
>>1. You can suggest what you need (and can't write)
>>2. You can suggest / show what other people are doing and have done.
>>3. You can contribute, to improve the product, make suggestions, etc.
>>
>>Jetspeed, is in reality truly what is great about the #1 Web Server in
>>the business, the combined minds of thousands (sometimes just dozens or
>>fewer) very hard working dedicated people. Open Source Software works...
>>
>>Sometimes our thoughts are poor, disorganized (mine are) but here is
>>what I see (as a non programmer) that I MUST have for a 100% go... Keep
>>in mind, Jetspeed is a great idea, and it is a "work in progress", not a
>>debate..
>>
>>I would like to see the following aspects addressed in Jetspeed, and am
>>willing to spend the time with willing programmers to get there.. are you?
>>
>>    Configuration Routine (usually you have to write this last) as the
>>program changes to much and
>>    too fast... along these lines I have great ideas..
>>
>>    Adding Content "portlets" at will...including;
>>            date content starts
>>            date content stops
>>            content creation (There are a number of nice xml publishing
>>packages out there, either write one or make a jetspeed modified version
>>of one) End Users can't do it.
>>
>>    Calander, ya that would be cool, but.... how about somethiing really
>>cool, voting, yes, but again, I would like to take it a few steps
>>further.. who is up to the challenge?
>>
>>    To demonstrate my committment to this project I run 2 portals 24 x
>>7, and work very hard to promote "good" software of all types.
>>
>>Lets have fun
>>
>>todd
>>waiting to work with programmers
>>
>>Frans Thamura wrote:
>>
>>>No, i think i will use jetspeed in seriously, but, sad man, all the
>>>
>source
>
>>>is not documented well, and a lot of big question and little bit
>>>
>crowded..
>
>>>There is a software eBdesk.com create by someone in my country, it is
>>>popular enough.. here...but they approach for corporate portal..
>>>
>>>my solution is for executive information system..
>>>
>>>sorry, i will prepare to put my sample work in the net, but still get a
>>>
>lot
>
>>>of BIG QUESTION...
>>>
>>>so, if you want to try implement Jetspeed, prepare for the hurt oke..
>>>
>>>Frans
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:31 PM
>>>Subject: RE: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Frans,
>>>>
>>>>1. Can I see on net some of your sites using jetspeed?
>>>>2. Now that you are aware of the issues in implementing a portal for
>>>>companies, have you found any other alternative?
>>>>(cheaper preferrably) ?
>>>>
>>>>-- haresh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Frans Thamura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:44 PM
>>>>To: Jetspeed Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>Subject: Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi haresh,
>>>>
>>>>>1. How is Jetspeed for deploying a serious business site (if not
>>>>>
>mission
>
>>>>>critical one ?)
>>>>>
>>>>I think for basic personalization is oke, but for multi tab or folder, i
>>>>think you will got the difficulty, esp for desigining the complex
>>>>portlet/psml
>>>>
>>>>i try to implement this in several company, yah we got a performance
>>>>problem, slow...
>>>>
>>>>I create a business intelligence system based on Jetspeed, called
>>>>
>cockpit
>
>>>>system , it is a balance scorecard system..
>>>>
>>>>>2. Are there any sites built using Jetspeed ? (other than the ones
>>>>>
>>>>specified
>>>>
>>>>>on the Jetspeed home page)
>>>>>
>>>>see in the reference of jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed
>>>>
>>>>>3. Has anyone implemented
>>>>>
>>>>>chat, discussion forums, polls, as portlets? (etc required to build a
>>>>>portal...)
>>>>>
>>>>I try poll, but forum, get difficulty to implement this.. integration
>>>>
>>>single
>>>
>>>>login problem
>>>>
>>>>>4. How to provide roll based access to the sub sections of the Jetspeed
>>>>>sites?
>>>>>For example, If I want to assign 4 different administrators to 4
>>>>>
>>>different
>>>
>>>>>sections of a community portal (children, young_minds, adults, senior
>>>>>citizens), so that those 4 people are responsible for managing the
>>>>>
>>>content
>>>
>>>>>published in the corresponding sections.
>>>>>
>>>>>Basically this is a content management system facility... which I think
>>>>>
>>>>can
>>>>
>>>>>be an integral part of the Portal system
>>>>>
>>>>>Is anybody working on such (Admin) portlet?
>>>>>
>>>>yah you can try it with admin/jetspeed user
>>>>
>>>>but, there is a role tag in xreg. if you implement it you will see the
>>>>
>>>role
>>>
>>>>based portlet.
>>>>
>>>>i create several roles in my jetspeed environment, this is a business
>>>>intelligence system, and work well.. even you must find a trick to
>>>>
>>>implement
>>>
>>>>this..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>have a nice try..
>>>>
>>>>Frans
>>>>
>>>>>regards
>>>>>
>>>>>Haresh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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