merci Raphael de ton opinion sur Zurban.com ;-)
alors on se voit un de ces jours ?
a+
Gilles
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready
> A nice production Jetspeed site is http://www.zurban.com/ (online Paris
city
> entertainment guide, there's also a paper edition a la TimeOut).
>
> Haresh Gujarathi wrote:
>
> > Hi Todd,
> >
> > Its a assuring sign that people like you are devoted to the open source
> > momentum.
> >
> > But I will say u are not getting my point.
> >
> > This discussion is not to criticize the Jetspeed development. But is to
find
> > out if
> > a. the Jetspeed can really be used in the production environment
> > b. it has sufficient basic features to be spent time and effort by
companies
> > like mine to deploy business sites for clients.
> >
> > Look we do not have time and resources to do experiment ourselves and
later
> > figure out that the product is too immature.
> > That is why I sent out the mail to ask people if they have deployed some
> > sensible sites on net.
> >
> > I do not understand what portal you are running... When I checked back
your
> > another posting,
> > I suppose you must be referring to http://portal.wisernet.com and
> > http://portal.wiserlabz.com
> > I do not see why these sites are great; I just do not see any content. I
do
> > not see any channels into it. They are totally useless as example to
assure
> > community that there are some meaningful sites using Jetspeed.
> >
> > Except for http://qld.ieaust.org.au/jetspeed I have not seen any
meaningful
> > deployment of jetspeed.
> > That is why I have doubts about its readiness for the business "as of
> > today". I am sure it will be ready tomorrow.
> >
> > I hope my reading to be wrong. Because if Jetspeed can be meaningfully
used
> > today, I would like to use it for my clients web sites. So please
correct me
> > if anybody things that way.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Haresh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: todd tredeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:55 AM
> > To: Jetspeed Users List
> > Subject: [opinion] Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready
> >
> >
> > I guess you guys miss the point... I think discussion is great, as long
> > as the purpose if for moving the product forward, adding needed input...
> > There is lots of great software out there. There are lots of great
> > programmers from many countries with different perspectives.
> >
> > 1. You can suggest what you need (and can't write)
> > 2. You can suggest / show what other people are doing and have done.
> > 3. You can contribute, to improve the product, make suggestions, etc.
> >
> > Jetspeed, is in reality truly what is great about the #1 Web Server in
> > the business, the combined minds of thousands (sometimes just dozens or
> > fewer) very hard working dedicated people. Open Source Software works...
> >
> > Sometimes our thoughts are poor, disorganized (mine are) but here is
> > what I see (as a non programmer) that I MUST have for a 100% go... Keep
> > in mind, Jetspeed is a great idea, and it is a "work in progress", not a
> > debate..
> >
> > I would like to see the following aspects addressed in Jetspeed, and am
> > willing to spend the time with willing programmers to get there.. are
you?
> >
> > Configuration Routine (usually you have to write this last) as the
> > program changes to much and
> > too fast... along these lines I have great ideas..
> >
> > Adding Content "portlets" at will...including;
> > date content starts
> > date content stops
> > content creation (There are a number of nice xml publishing
> > packages out there, either write one or make a jetspeed modified version
> > of one) End Users can't do it.
> >
> > Calander, ya that would be cool, but.... how about somethiing really
> > cool, voting, yes, but again, I would like to take it a few steps
> > further.. who is up to the challenge?
> >
> > To demonstrate my committment to this project I run 2 portals 24 x
> > 7, and work very hard to promote "good" software of all types.
> >
> > Lets have fun
> >
> > todd
> > waiting to work with programmers
> >
> > Frans Thamura wrote:
> >
> >
> >>No, i think i will use jetspeed in seriously, but, sad man, all the
source
> >>is not documented well, and a lot of big question and little bit
crowded..
> >>
> >>There is a software eBdesk.com create by someone in my country, it is
> >>popular enough.. here...but they approach for corporate portal..
> >>
> >>my solution is for executive information system..
> >>
> >>sorry, i will prepare to put my sample work in the net, but still get a
lot
> >>of BIG QUESTION...
> >>
> >>so, if you want to try implement Jetspeed, prepare for the hurt oke..
> >>
> >>Frans
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Haresh Gujarathi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:31 PM
> >>Subject: RE: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi Frans,
> >>>
> >>>1. Can I see on net some of your sites using jetspeed?
> >>>2. Now that you are aware of the issues in implementing a portal for
> >>>companies, have you found any other alternative?
> >>>(cheaper preferrably) ?
> >>>
> >>>-- haresh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Frans Thamura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:44 PM
> >>>To: Jetspeed Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>Subject: Re: Jetspeed for professional sites; Is it ready?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Hi haresh,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>1. How is Jetspeed for deploying a serious business site (if not
mission
> >>>>critical one ?)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>I think for basic personalization is oke, but for multi tab or folder,
i
> >>>think you will got the difficulty, esp for desigining the complex
> >>>portlet/psml
> >>>
> >>>i try to implement this in several company, yah we got a performance
> >>>problem, slow...
> >>>
> >>>I create a business intelligence system based on Jetspeed, called
cockpit
> >>>system , it is a balance scorecard system..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>2. Are there any sites built using Jetspeed ? (other than the ones
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>specified
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>on the Jetspeed home page)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>see in the reference of jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>3. Has anyone implemented
> >>>>
> >>>>chat, discussion forums, polls, as portlets? (etc required to build a
> >>>>portal...)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>I try poll, but forum, get difficulty to implement this.. integration
> >>>
> >>>
> >>single
> >>
> >>
> >>>login problem
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>4. How to provide roll based access to the sub sections of the
Jetspeed
> >>>>sites?
> >>>>For example, If I want to assign 4 different administrators to 4
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>different
> >>
> >>
> >>>>sections of a community portal (children, young_minds, adults, senior
> >>>>citizens), so that those 4 people are responsible for managing the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>content
> >>
> >>
> >>>>published in the corresponding sections.
> >>>>
> >>>>Basically this is a content management system facility... which I
think
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>can
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>be an integral part of the Portal system
> >>>>
> >>>>Is anybody working on such (Admin) portlet?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>yah you can try it with admin/jetspeed user
> >>>
> >>>but, there is a role tag in xreg. if you implement it you will see the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>role
> >>
> >>
> >>>based portlet.
> >>>
> >>>i create several roles in my jetspeed environment, this is a business
> >>>intelligence system, and work well.. even you must find a trick to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>implement
> >>
> >>
> >>>this..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>have a nice try..
> >>>
> >>>Frans
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>regards
> >>>>
> >>>>Haresh
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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