Hello,

I didn't intended to generate this list of "I agree" messages so I feel the 
need to clarify what I wanted to say:

I perfectly understand that the main effort is on development and that one 
of the rules of the Open Source movement is some kind of "help yourself".

I don't intend to suggest that other guys, must come and do my job (well if 
someone loves to wash dishes.. just email me..).

The "free" item in Open Source has a little, a perfectly normal price, it 
this "help yourself" and I'm ok with that.

This said I'm for let's say philosophical reasons a fan of the Open Source 
movement and would like to use Open Source software when I can (and I 
evolve in an environment where the price is not the most important item)

Right now I'm working on a pilot for an intranet portal with a HR emphasis.

Although I'm absolutely not required to do this I'd prefer to use an Open 
Source solution and JetSpeed seems the one I'm looking for.

I can perfectly say to a customer "this nice application is based on a 
community development effort", but I can't say "well, in order to use this 
app, you just need to hack around the properties file according to the 
documentation that is missing and if every thing is screwed, just try the 
opposite way and pray" :-)))

And there are a huge lot of black holes for instance. For example, I still 
don't understand why although I've set up the new InstantDB JDBC driver in 
Turbine Properties, when I try 1.2b1 I get a class not found for the old 
one....

The various path for the various settings are very cryptic especially under 
NT and I strongly believe that the key to opensource application success is 
to take NT in account. No OS war here, I really don't give a s...t about 
the fact that NT is or is not a good OS. The fact is that inside the 
companies, for departmental server there is (for instance) a lot of NT.

What I wanted to say is that the combination of the "bazaar" Open Source 
and a "normal" documentation is possible, Tomcat user guide is becoming a 
real impressive work and on the other hand, Struts distribution may be seen 
as a standard for further releases.

I do know that a documentation will not be written by magic, and I'm one 
among I suppose a lot of others, that would be very pleased to help....

Luc

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| Luc Saint-Elie                                 |
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