Frieda, or anyone else with this Mac problem:
If you are willing, we can test this on your machine. I've added a
little feature to that page that lets us test your browser.
2) pop up the "atom expressions" example
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Test 1: Is it using the Object code for the applet? You should see just
under the applet:
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Jmol Version 11.0(beta) 2006/08/15 using Jmol-11.js
object applet
If not, that's ok. Just tell me what it says.
3) Carry out each of the following tests by typing into the VERY FIRST
LINE of the text area and each time pressing [ Execute ] (not just the
ENTER key). Pleaes report back to me what you get. What we are looking
for is the command that will get that applet function to report back a
nice message about the applet. Feel free to experiment.
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Test 2: Does my test work at all?
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js: 1+2
You should see an alert that says "3", because I have "js:" coded to
mean "run this as _javascript_". If you don't get that, don't continue.
Try loading
or twice to force your cache to clear. You should get a version that
reads
// popupscript.js for Jmol interactive script documentation
// 11:41 PM 8/17/2006
at the top. Then repeat step (1)
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Test 3: Is the document found?
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js:document
You should get something like "object HTMLDocument"
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Test 4: How can we address the applet?
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js:document.jmolAppletX
OK, this is probably going to be the problem. You should get something
like "object HTMLObjectElement" or some fancy _expression_ including
height and width or something. Some OSs will give "undefined", which
means this isn't the way to find the applet. But there are several other
ways. Try ALL of these (even if the above works, please).
js.document["jmolAppletX"]
js:document.getElementById("jmolAppletX")
js:document.applets[0]
js:document.applets["jmolAppletX"]
js:document.getElementsByTagName("jmolAppletX")
If none of those return anything useful, you are on your own. I don't
know what to suggest.
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Test 5: Can we access the applet functions?
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For all the return something interesting, try adding ".getAppletInfo"
So, for example:
js:document.getElementById("jmolAppletX").getAppletInfo
This should return something about this being "native code". BUT, on
SOME MAC SYSTEMS, even if this step works, LiveConnect, which allows
running those functions, still doesn't work.
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Test 6: Can we call any applet function?
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Provided that worked, now try adding the empty parentheses. My
experience is that on some Macs even if you find the applet, even if you
can see that there is a function there, you still cannot actually run it.
js:document.getElementById("jmolAppletX").getAppletInfo()
If none of these gives a nice message about the applet version and
sourceforge, we're out of luck.
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Test 7: Can we run a Jmol script?
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Final mission: Find the equivalent way on your machine to do this:
js:document.getElementById("jmolAppletX").scriptWait("background red")
js:document.getElementById("jmolAppletX").scriptWait("load caffeine.xyz")
If you can find that, we are in business. If not, I don't know what to
suggest. As I remember sometimes what is happening is that the popup
window no longer has access to the resources of the original page --
namely the files in the directory of the JAR file. Look for any sort of
console error or _javascript_ error you can find.
Thanks,
Bob
Frieda Reichsman wrote:
On Aug 16, 2006, at 9:38 PM, Bob Hanson wrote:
OK, I'm catching on. Please give this a whirl on your Mac:
There's a slight chance that it will work.
Hi Bob
Didn't catch up with this until the pages were moved to your new URL,
but I checked there and they still seem to have exactly the same
problem on my Mac. :^( Thanks for trying...
Frieda
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Molecules in Motion
Interactive Molecular Structures
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