Hi Angel,

Thanks for this - I think we may be getting somewhere. My office computer is 
running IE11.0.9600 while the student fleet seems to be IE8.0 something! I have 
no (immediate) control over this and it's effectively as it is for the moment.

So, I cannot change the version of IE available on student computers and I 
don't really want to get into Java as I'm not sure what is allowed and/or 
installed. I think (I could ask) Java has been disabled, which is why the 
yellow bar is appearing. Even if I accept I get the error.

Maybe the only course of action is to use Chrome and package the batch file I 
created with the JSmol files and get students to load Chrome that way first. Or 
I abandon everything as it getting complicated... unfortunately, the session 
when I was intending to do this is next Monday...

Just seen additional messages from Bob as I've been writing this...

Anthony


-----Original Message-----
From: Angel Herráez [mailto:angel.herr...@uah.es]
Sent: 21 January 2015 17:42
To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] JSmol and Java issues... maybe

Anthony

I really cannot make any logical explanation for the things you are seeing. 
Fortunately, with your downloadable zip I can test; that was the best choice, 
thanks.
I am a Win man so I can test. I do not regularly try IE since it's not my 
favourite and also not the best choice for JSmol with large molecules. This is 
IE11.0.9600, Win8.1, user belongs to admin group

Testing your files, locally:

== test2.htm ==
NCI seems not to deliver the models right now, but PubChem works fine in both 
Firefox and IE

== AntTest.htm ==
loads (surprisingly fast) in IE, both models display

== AntTestPartial_00.htm ==
nothing but several dots in the page

== AntTestPartial_01.htm ==
loads OK in IE

== AntTestPartial_02.htm ==
loads OK in IE

== Antest_old.htm ==
no JSmol box, narrow white space on the left of the texts

== http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jsmol/test2.htm  == runs OK in Firefox; in 
IE I get several alerts but they are related to problems with language 
localization, then at the end the model loads

oh, WAIT!!!!!....  What is your version of IE?  I seem to recall a case where a 
certain old version of IE made JSmol to automatically switch to Java -- that 
would explain your Java errors. I think that happened with old IE versions for 
which there is no support for HTML5 canvas, so Java is the only choice and the 
inner code in JSmol activates that.
On your frist screenshots there is also the issue of the yellow bar at the top 
of the IE window asking for permission - whatever they say ("Activex"), you 
MUST accept and give permission. That explains the white boxes.

>From your secreenshots I cannot make what is the IE version (9 is the
bare minimum if I remember correctly, 10 is much better)

BTW, if you are forced to IE (old or new) and the computers do have
Java configured, you could be better letting Jmol-Java step in. The
Java files take less space than the j2s ones and the page code is
mostly the same


·
 Dr. Angel Herráez
 Biochemistry and Molecular Biology,
 Dept. of Systems Biology, University of Alcalá
 E-28871 Alcalá de Henares  (Madrid), Spain


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