Alan D. Cabrera wrote:

On Jul 11, 2008, at 9:17 AM, Jeremy Haile wrote:

I do feel like we are spending undue amounts of time discussing a logging implementation, rather than addressing the serious holes in JSecurity's security implementation, unit tests, and documentation.

In my opinion, those are much more worthy of heated debate and much more worthy of our time. Hence I think the faster we can get through the logging issue and on to important issues, the better.


I know what you mean but, this is the ASF way. Things need to be discussed and a consensus reached. I know that it's agonizing for the committers but this is what brings in the community participation, if they feel that then can contribute. After all, this is why you've come here to incubate at the ASF, no?
+1 to what Alan says. I

mentioned a vote but if no consensus is reached, you will get -1, and this is certainly not what you want :)

A vote is much more a way to state that the concensus has been reached.

Last not least, we are all having strong positions, but it's more important to understand why others don't share them. Sometime its better to make compromises on small things than to stand on principles, for the good of the community.

And as a touch of humor, as a friend told me once : "this is not because we disagree that you are right" :)


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cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel Lécharny
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