This is a good thing, is that those of us who used Sonar LE for some time
have a faster learning curve since the UI is basically the same thing, it's
just trillions and zillions of different features to get used to. What I
would want to do, is to somehow have available some tutorial or
demonstration projects for Sonar that give good clear examples of when and
why a certain feature could/would be a good idea to use. Then use the
sample/demo project to give a working example of what the feature(s) talked
about in the tutorial/article/blog entry would sound like when used the
right way. Some example features I'm still trying to figure out/understand
are:

1. Audio snap
2. Track layers
3. The matrix view
4. Some FX not commonly used like phaser, multi band EQ, parametric EQ,
graphic EQ, delay, distortion, chorus, compression, master limiter, boost
and channel tools.
5. Assignable controls
6. Automation.

Whoever can do the tutorials/projects could send them to Vic and they could
be hosted on JSonar's website for all JSonar users to take advantage of.
Does anybody think this could be possible?
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Peter Torpey
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 11:24 PM
To: 'JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list'
Subject: Re: [Jsonar] Using the Envelope tool with Jsonar


Ah, after a bunch of playing around, I finally interpreted what you said
(and the Sonar documentation was trying to describe) correctly and got the
effect I wanted!

I was able to control the amount of effect using automation and the pitch
wheel on my midi keyboard.  I couldn't get the effect to be controlled by
any of the sliders on my midi keyboard.  when I chose "controller" and the
"learn" mode of sonar, nothing happened.  Aren't the sliders considered
controllers?

Well, in any case, I got it to work by using the pitch wheel as the control
surface.

Thanks again.  Your directions were good.

The trouble I keep having with the Sonar documentation is that most
everything is described using the mouse and embedded pictorials of what you
should be seeing in each dialog.  thus, unless you're familiar with the
program already, it is difficult to comprehend what they are trying to
explain.

slowly I'm learning.

--Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Mark Faben
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 1:08 PM
To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list
Subject: Re: [Jsonar] Using the Envelope tool with Jsonar

Hi,

Also no idea here I'm afraid on the envelope tool and there are probably a
good few differnt ways to do the task you want to do, however, the best
option useually is something like the following (hoping I'm getting it right
as I'm not at home or near my Sonar computer as I'm on hols...):

You'd basically want to do it by using an 'effects send'. Basically insert
an effects send onto the track with the audio you want to add the selective
echo/reverb/delay to, if one isn't alreayd there. Then insert the desired
effect for the delay/reverb/whatever you want, on to the Effects bus. Back
on your track of audio, you'll need to activate the send, and then move the
send volume up to determine how much is being sent to the send. Of course,
this will add the patched effect from the effect send to the entire audio
track; there are really two ways to then make it only have the effect on the
parts of the audio you want it to be on; Most people seem to go for
recording automation on the effects send on the audio track; basically have
the volume of the effects send set to nothing on the bits you want no efect,
and set higher on those bits you want the effect on (the level obviously
altering how much of the effect is heard). Another way might be to automate
the volume on the effects send bus itself, whilst having the volume on the
audio track's effects send level, set high enough; basiclaly reduce the
volume of the bus on the parts where you don't want to be hearing the
effect...

err I've probably not described that as well as I might have done were I
able to look and make sure I'd got it right on my sonar machine... but maybe
it'll help...

Mark

On 04/07/2010, Peter Torpey <[email protected]> wrote:
> Okay, I can turn on the envelope tool with JSonar by hitting "E" when 
> in
the
> Track view.
>
>
>
> I read all the documentation I could find on envelopes in the Sonar 
> Help documentation, but couldn't figure out how to actually use the 
> envelope
tool
> from the keyboard.  When I hit "e" to toggle envelope tool "on", I 
> don't
see
> any other useful windows or dialogs pop up.
>
>
>
> Can someone point me in the right direction to get started here?
>
>
>
> perhaps the envelope tool is not really what I'm looking for here
(although
> I'd like to learn to use it from the keyboard for other purposes).
>
>
>
> here is the task I am trying to perform.  I have some spoken text.  I
would
> like to add an "echo" or delay effect on certain words of the text 
> (not
the
> entire clip).  maybe cut and paste and bounce to track is a better way 
> of doing this?
>
>
>
> Anyway, thanks for any suggestions on the task at hand and/or pointers 
> on how to use the envelope tool from the keyboard.
>
>
>
> --Pete
>
>
>
>


-- 
Mark Faben

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