Roy,

thanks for your suggestion, but I tried that.

I have the Generic sonar Surface defined under Options /
Controllers-Surfaces, and I have Act learn checked under Options.

Still, when I go to the remote control menu and select "controller", the
value never changes from 0 no matter which volume slider I use on my Roland
RD300GX keyboard.  Maybe these volume sliders don't send out midi signals.
I'll have to read more of the Roland manual.

Fortunately, I can control the automation by using the pitch wheel on my
Roland keyboard, so at least something works for automation.

thanks anyway.

--Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Roy Shtupler
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 12:43 AM
To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list
Subject: Re: [Jsonar] Using the Envelope tool with Jsonar

in the remote control dialog , choose "controllers" , then press the Learn 
button , now move a slider on your midi control surface; the edit field 
should reflect what was just received.
cheers
Roy.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Torpey" <[email protected]>
To: "'JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Jsonar] Using the Envelope tool with Jsonar


> Ah, after a bunch of playing around, I finally interpreted what you said
> (and the Sonar documentation was trying to describe) correctly and got the
> effect I wanted!
>
> I was able to control the amount of effect using automation and the pitch
> wheel on my midi keyboard.  I couldn't get the effect to be controlled by
> any of the sliders on my midi keyboard.  when I chose "controller" and the
> "learn" mode of sonar, nothing happened.  Aren't the sliders considered
> controllers?
>
> Well, in any case, I got it to work by using the pitch wheel as the 
> control
> surface.
>
> Thanks again.  Your directions were good.
>
> The trouble I keep having with the Sonar documentation is that most
> everything is described using the mouse and embedded pictorials of what 
> you
> should be seeing in each dialog.  thus, unless you're familiar with the
> program already, it is difficult to comprehend what they are trying to
> explain.
>
> slowly I'm learning.
>
> --Pete
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf
> Of Mark Faben
> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 1:08 PM
> To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar list
> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] Using the Envelope tool with Jsonar
>
> Hi,
>
> Also no idea here I'm afraid on the envelope tool and there are
> probably a good few differnt ways to do the task you want to do,
> however, the best option useually is something like the following
> (hoping I'm getting it right as I'm not at home or near my Sonar
> computer as I'm on hols...):
>
> You'd basically want to do it by using an 'effects send'.
> Basically insert an effects send onto the track with the audio you
> want to add the selective echo/reverb/delay to, if one isn't alreayd
> there.
> Then insert the desired effect for the delay/reverb/whatever you want,
> on to the Effects bus.
> Back on your track of audio, you'll need to activate the send, and
> then move the send volume up to determine how much is being sent to
> the send.
> Of course, this will add the patched effect from the effect send to
> the entire audio track; there are really two ways to then make it only
> have the effect on the parts of the audio you want it to be on;
> Most people seem to go for recording automation on the effects send on
> the audio track; basically have the volume of the effects send set to
> nothing on the bits you want no efect, and set higher on those bits
> you want the effect on (the level obviously altering how much of the
> effect is heard).
> Another way might be to automate the volume on the effects send bus
> itself, whilst having the volume on the audio track's effects send
> level, set high enough; basiclaly reduce the volume of the bus on the
> parts where you don't want to be hearing the effect...
>
> err I've probably not described that as well as I might have done were
> I able to look and make sure I'd got it right on my sonar machine...
> but maybe it'll help...
>
> Mark
>
> On 04/07/2010, Peter Torpey <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Okay, I can turn on the envelope tool with JSonar by hitting "E" when in
> the
>> Track view.
>>
>>
>>
>> I read all the documentation I could find on envelopes in the Sonar Help
>> documentation, but couldn't figure out how to actually use the envelope
> tool
>> from the keyboard.  When I hit "e" to toggle envelope tool "on", I don't
> see
>> any other useful windows or dialogs pop up.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can someone point me in the right direction to get started here?
>>
>>
>>
>> perhaps the envelope tool is not really what I'm looking for here
> (although
>> I'd like to learn to use it from the keyboard for other purposes).
>>
>>
>>
>> here is the task I am trying to perform.  I have some spoken text.  I
> would
>> like to add an "echo" or delay effect on certain words of the text (not
> the
>> entire clip).  maybe cut and paste and bounce to track is a better way of
>> doing this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway, thanks for any suggestions on the task at hand and/or pointers on
>> how to use the envelope tool from the keyboard.
>>
>>
>>
>> --Pete
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Mark Faben
>
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