I can answer that one:
The autoresponse has been hosed for a few days now. It just got fixed.
Jim
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On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, Archie Russell wrote:
> I tried to contact the jsp group via the feedback link on their web page;
> I didn't hear anything back. I don't think the original date it was
> supposed to come out was mid-spring. I haven't been on this list forever
> but I've heard previously that it would come up at the beginning of
> March.
>
> -Archie
>
> On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, Kirkdorffer, Daniel wrote:
>
> > Why don't those of you wondering how to keep convincing management to use
> > JSP contact the developers of the americancentury.com website. I can't
> > believe convincing a financial institution like American Century was a push
> > over, but they obviously were able to.
> >
> > 0.91 provides the basic functionality, and more. If companies can provide
> > servlet engines that support JSP at 0.91, and if these engines do the job,
> > then simply indicate 0.91 is basically a 1.0 and 1.0 will basically be a
> > 1.1.
> >
> > Let's not kid ourselves. Just because someone stamps a product 1.0 doesn't
> > mean it is perfect either. I want to see 1.0 just as much as everyone, but
> > the issue has been discussed a number of times previously, and SUN has
> > responded before that it will be mid-Spring. Complaining about that here
> > serves little purpose now. Why not contact them directly instead?
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From: Hisham Shahtout[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Reply To: Hisham Shahtout
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 4:20 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: 1.0 Spec First Quarter?
> > >
> > > I agree with you. Sun better finalize the spec. soon. 1.0 does not have to
> > > be
> > > perfect, flexible
> > > or complete. Just provide the basic functionality so that developers can
> > > go their
> > > managers and
> > > convince them to use JSP instead of always bumping in the argument that
> > > JSP is
> > > not finalized
> > > yet!
> > >
> > > regards
> > > -Hisham
> > >
> > > Ben Engber wrote:
> > >
> > > > > There are at least three commercial implementations of JSP.
> > > JRun,
> > > > >ServletExec, and WebSphere. All three of them provide excellent
> > > support if
> > > > >there is a problem and rarely (not "usually") use the excuse that "it
> > > has
> > > > >not been finalized
> > > > > yet!" All three provide support for the 0.91 spec, and some
> > > (such
> > > > >as JRun) are providing 0.92 support as well. The implementations are
> > > robust
> > > > >and very usable. The JSP is portable between the platforms (as long as
> > > you
> > > > >stick to the 0.91 spec) The tech support from all three platforms is
> > > > >decent. It's not always great, but it's there.
> > > >
> > > > This may be true, but the response I get from Weblogic tech support is
> > > > always "We're not going to start supporting JSP until the 1.0 spec is
> > > out".
> > > > And GNUJSP will stay at 0.91 until the final spec is out. And Netscape
> > > > has (at times) given the same answer. Who knows what other vendors
> > > > (NetDynamics?) are doing?
> > > >
> > > > The fact of the matter is that virtually all application server vendors
> > > are
> > > > "committed" to supporting JSP, but few currently support it. And when
> > > it
> > > > comes down to making a decision on an appserver, current JSP support is
> > > not
> > > > going to be a primary criterion (instead will be issues like
> > > scalability,
> > > > failover, distributed computing model, etc).
> > > >
> > > > By delaying the 1.0 spec, Sun has kept major appserver vendors from
> > > > offering support, and kept developers from moving beyond the prototype
> > > stage.
> > > >
> > > > Hell, they could release 0.91 again and call it 1.0, I don't care. They
> > > > just need to release something.
> > > >
> > > > -Ben
> > > >
> > > >
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