I was going to make the same point. Why is volunteering for open source a bad thing?
I went to sourceforge last night and clicked through the developers needed section. Lots of Java in there, and a wide range of interests. Someone wants to port a Periodic Table application to Java. Seemed pretty interesting. It's hard to know whether to suggest JBoss/Apache or one of the other communities of Java, or whether finding a smaller community on Sourceforge would be a better start. The latter would probably be better in terms of real experience, though the former looks better to employers I suspect. Do both. Find a small thing you care about in a container, or a library or something, and get involved making small changes, and at the same time find a smaller community where you can make more of a difference. Maybe the smaller community could even be one using the larger community's wares. Despite the various debates about Tapestry/Struts etc, finding a project on SF that is using Struts, and joining the Struts list, would seem to be a good resume nugget. Many jobs seem to mention Struts nowadays, though Tapestry will probably be just as common at some point soon. One problem is that when you get the interview/job, you need to start arguing with the lawyers so you can continue to contribute to open source, as they'll likely have a nasty NDA to sign. Probably the biggest negative I can see if you simply view open source coding as a way to fill unemployment time and get a job. Hen On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, Andrew Oliver wrote: > > I thought the Intermediate Java for Programmers in TE I was excellent > > (except for the inability to print out the slides so I can use them anywhere > > rather than just my computer). > > > > Unfortunately, I haven'yt had any takers on my new Java expertise along with > > my experience in complex software development. So, it's been a year and I've > > forgotten much of what I learned as I head into C#... > > I've given anyone whose asked a fairly proven route to employment. Pick up > an open source project that�s being fairly well used and get your name out > there. > > In fact: > > http://jboss.org/jbossBlog/blog/bbickel/?permalink=0001.html > > " > We want to continue to expand the projects, and this will help in a number > of ways. First, it allows us to continue to hire the best JBoss contributors > (take note developers wanting to join JBoss: the best way is to get > recognized by committing). > " > > If monster.com isn't working any better for you than the millions of others, > how about trying something that is on an expanding curve? > > -Andy > > > > > But, Stu was great, informative, and easy to learn from. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stuart Halloway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Research Triangle Java User's Group mailing list." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 5:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [Juglist] TechEngage III > > > > > >> The Java curriculum could certainly be better! It would be nice to see > >> more people from the JUG addressing curriculum deficiencies instead of > >> just pointing them out. TechEngage is a very small volunteer operation, > >> and there is a lot of room to jump in and contribute. > >> > >> Employers are much more interested in hiring people who, after > >> identifying problems, *solve* them. > >> > >> Stu Halloway > >> > >> > >>> Also, at least in the first year, the published Java curriculum was > >>> unappealing compared to the .Net one. And a lot fewer sessions were > >>> scheduled. > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Juglist mailing list > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> http://trijug.org/mailman/listinfo/juglist_trijug.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Juglist mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://trijug.org/mailman/listinfo/juglist_trijug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Juglist mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://trijug.org/mailman/listinfo/juglist_trijug.org > _______________________________________________ Juglist mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://trijug.org/mailman/listinfo/juglist_trijug.org
