I agree with Phil's view. I work for IBM and our entire credibility is based on our support for standards, with Java being one of our major success stories and the foundation of WebSphere's success. We would be betraying our customers by forking Java. I think that open-sourcing Java is really more about freeing up the tight control that Sun still has over the technology development and allow the pace of innovation to increase. BTW, IBM's web services implementation did diverge from Axis, but then again Axis was not a standard. We support the relevant J2EE standards for web services, like JAX-RPC and JAXP that have a JSR associated with them. In this case we compete and innovate on our implementation, not on forking from standards. Hope this helps clarify.
Regards,
Greg
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Don Brady wrote:
> I think that's why IBM wants it open-sourced - so that they can fork it,
> on the way to a proprietary implementation.
That's an interesting point of view Don. I'm curious as to what
makes you think that, though. I mean, what does IBM gain
from a proprietary / non-compatible Java implementation? One
of the major advantages of Java is the write once / run anywhere
stuff... take that away, and Java looks a lot less attractive...
surely IBM recognizes this?
>
> That's what they did to Apache Axis.
I'm not familiar with the details on this.. would you
mind elaborating? I know that at one time IBM had
some people contributing to the Axis project...
but I'm not heavily involved with Web Services,
so I haven't been following the goings on in that
community.... I'm curious to hear more, if there
is anything else you can say...
TTYL,
Phil
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