At 12:46 AM 6/4/2004, you wrote:
I agree with Phil's view. I work for IBM and our entire credibility is based on our support for standards, with Java being one of our major success stories and the foundation of WebSphere's success. We would be betraying our customers by forking Java. I think that open-sourcing Java is really more about freeing up the tight control that Sun still has over the technology development and allow the pace of innovation to increase. BTW, IBM's web services implementation did diverge from Axis, but then again Axis was not a standard. We support the relevant J2EE standards for web services, like JAX-RPC and JAXP that have a JSR associated with them. In this case we compete and innovate on our implementation, not on forking from standards.
Oh IBM would not try this unless and until they could get BEA, Oracle and HP to go along with a new proposed standard. They would announce it with great fanfare.
As a matter of fact there were reports that such a move was all ready to go a couple of years ago, but cancelled at the last minute when Oracle pulled out of the cabal (probably having had some long talks with Sun).
I would not be at all surprised to see that tried again at any time (with or without open-source Java).
I'm not saying there would be anything wrong with it. Nothing lasts forever....
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