We sort of knew that the "Jupyter Team" was not a legal entity when we added it, but didn't have a better language at the time. I think that "Jupyter Contributors" is probably a slightly better way of wording this from a legal perspective, because each Jupyter Contributor exists from a legal perspective and is in fact a copyright holder. Even though, informally all of us equate Team == Contributors.
+1 to this change. Cheers, Brian On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:15 PM, Chris Colbert <[email protected]> wrote: > I've actually talked to some people knowledgeable in this area, who > adamantly claim that "The <Foo> Team" is not a legal entity, and therefore > cannot hold copyright. Assuming that's true, it makes "Project Jupyter Team" > a meaningless statement wrt copyright. > > FWIW (and IANAL) - I use "PhosphorJS Contributors" in my license header, and > "copyright holder" in the body text. > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Fernando Perez <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I recently noticed that there's something funny about the way our license >> is worded compared to the BSD template... >> >> Our licenses say >> >> "Neither the name of JupyterLab...", "... name of Jupyter...", etc... >> >> But the original BSD template reads >> (https://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause) >> >> "Neither the name of the copyright holder..." >> >> and the term "copyright holder" isn't a variable to template over, just >> the words "copyright holder". In our case, that is "Project Jupyter" in >> some licenses, and I'd argue it should read "Project Jupyter Team" to >> indicate that it's the *people*, not the abstract/legal project entity... >> >> I didn't realize that our licenses had changed in this way, but in a sense >> we are NOT using BSD! We've made a subtle but important change, as we've >> basically added a trademark barrier in the third clause (hence this question >> the person is asking), whereas the original third clause is about >> *endorsement of promotion*. >> >> I had never noticed this, but I would argue that our licenses should: >> >> 1. All read: >> >> Copyright... The Project Jupyter Development Team. >> >> >> This would convey the fact that we're talking about the people who wrote >> the code. It's our shorthand for the union of all `git shortlog -sne`... >> >> >> 2. Actually use the real BSD license text, not some subtly modified >> version. That means that other than filling in the placeholders, we leave >> the body of text unmodified. >> >> >> What do people think? >> >> Cheers, >> >> ps - sorry that I'm sending this and going offline, the discussion started >> on the council list and Jason correctly pointed out that this is really an >> open topic... Reposting here for reference, hopefully others can provide >> feedback in my absence. >> >> -- >> Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) >> fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when swamped!) >> fernando.perez-at-berkeley: contact me here for any direct mail >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Project Jupyter" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jupyter/CAHAreOoQjN%2BA41qoyXy5ZUUjL_kL9g8Xd2RVMdWvJ_eW62wToQ%40mail.gmail.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Project Jupyter" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jupyter/CAPc_zRUAkZ%3Df2yVNaZj47D06BgLFv2xVpiEsf-LD4JfqMBQU1w%40mail.gmail.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Brian E. Granger Associate Professor of Physics and Data Science Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo @ellisonbg on Twitter and GitHub [email protected] and [email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Project Jupyter" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jupyter/CAH4pYpTkzsR%3DDYkkq-F4T36K%2BJgy92U9Cxo_1dvW5GistFn5kA%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
